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GrannyRose15 Sat 22-Oct-22 13:13:45

I arranged to go out for a countryside walk with a group of friends, some I know well, some I hardly know at all. We were supposed to walk for about an hour and finish up at an eating place for lunch.
Quite a nice cafe style place for lunch with three separate eating areas with same menu; outside area, inside conservatory and inside restaurant.
No dogs allowed in restaurant area but staff quite happy for dogs to stay with you in other areas.
Friends decided to eat in restaurant area even though they knew I couldn't bring my dog in with me.
What would you have done?
1. Tied dog up outside, where you couldn't see him and risk him, or you, getting anxious, and sit and eat with friends.
2. Eat on your own in another area.
3. Go home.
Just wonder what others think.

Callistemon21 Mon 24-Oct-22 19:20:21

Joseanne

I wish the dog could speak and tell us his side of the story! ?

?

I expect he wanted to go home ?

Naughtyneine Mon 24-Oct-22 19:01:57

I was thinking about your question...Has anyone been in contact since to find out where she went to...was she ok? If not then I stand by my original comment...ex friends and onto pastures new and friendly to dogs and humans....

Doodledog Mon 24-Oct-22 19:00:10

Fernhillnana

Another proof that dogs are better than people!

I'm a dog lover, but really - in the circumstances a dog out with other dogs would have gone wherever the food was and been happy grin. The comparison makes no sense.

Anyway, I agree with Lathyrus and Glorianny too, except that I would probably have sat with the OP, even if I felt a bit put out about the situation.

Remember that the 3 options are only the ones put forward by the OP - there were other options that we haven't been given:
1. Check before the walk if the dog was welcome.
2. Ask if other people were happy to eat amongst dogs in the conservatory.
3. Take the car so there was an option to put the dog in it if the conservatory was too full, or if the others didn't want to eat there.

As it is, the choices are presented as having been either
1 Risking the dog being stolen or howling throughout and running the lunch.
2 Eating with other dog owners, away from those in the party who hadn't brought their dogs.
3 Making the others feel bad by leaving, without (presumably) being assertive and asking if anyone wanted to sit in the conservatory with the OP.

As option 1 is unviable, we are left with either eating in the area set aside for dog owners, or behaving rather rudely by leaving unannounced, assuming that there is not more to the story than we have been told.

I see no compromise at all from the OP. It's all about her feelings and her desire to have the dog there, and for the others to put her feelings first and sit in an area where there would, presumably, be not only her dog, but others too. Not everyone would want to do that, which seems to me, as a dog lover, fair enough.

BlueBelle Mon 24-Oct-22 18:46:28

My one question no one has answered is
Did the big group realise she wasn’t with them at the restaurant or did they not miss her then maybe when they did realise they just presumed that she hadn’t come in with them ???

It could be a simple mix up and not the nastiness you have all jumped to presume

Fernhillnana Mon 24-Oct-22 18:30:47

Another proof that dogs are better than people!

Joseanne Mon 24-Oct-22 18:16:50

I wish the dog could speak and tell us his side of the story! ?

win Mon 24-Oct-22 18:01:31

I am totally with Lathyrus

Lathyrus Mon 24-Oct-22 17:39:33

The OP could have avoided all this by simply taking her car for the dog as she thought of doing and then rejected the idea.

In a group where she knew some people but not others, she could not have known that everyone would be happy to eat with dogs.

To me, taking the car would have been showing the friendly consideration for others that many posters have called for from the rest of the group.

Don’t you think it should work both ways?

win Mon 24-Oct-22 17:31:16

We need to know if your friends knew and agreed to you taking your dog in advance. If so they were not being considerate nor inclusive. However if you just brought the dog along it was for you to accept other people don’t necessarily let their pets rule their life. You did the right thing by leaving either way..

Colliedolly Mon 24-Oct-22 17:19:24

Definitely 3 and seriously reconsider my choice of friends. I would feel very hurt

NotSpaghetti Mon 24-Oct-22 17:18:00

Where is GrannyRose15?
Please come back so we have answers to the questions...

Lathyrus Mon 24-Oct-22 17:16:12

I don’t think anybody objected to her taking her dog. She didn’t say that. Just that they wanted to eat in the restaurant and she thought they should eat in the a conservatory because she had brought her dog.

Perhaps if other people had taken their dogs they would have also taken the car as the OP said she had thought of doing. She decided not to and expected everyone to fall in with her decision.

She just didn’t think about what other people might want at all. Only about what would suit her. And then she(and a lot of posters) think they should just have said whatever you want Grannyrose, never mind about anyone else.

Try if you can to take the dog out of it. Should one person dictate what a whole group does, just to get what they want?

foxie48 Mon 24-Oct-22 17:16:11

Just as an aside really but in rural areas I find most places are either happy to admit a dog or have a designated dog friendly area. Perhaps it's because so many of us walk our dogs then go for lunch or an early supper and we tend not to be fair weather walkers. We are made very welcome as I think we constitute an important share of their customers. We went to a rather up market Brasserie in a city near to us recently for Sunday lunch and although we didn't take our dog, there were other people there in the main area with dogs happily sitting at their feet or under the table. I've never seen a dog misbehaving and certainly wouldn't tolerate my dog doing anything that would annoy customers or staff. As I said up thread, the main problem I have is asking people not to interact with him without my permission and I am shocked at how many parents think it's OK to let their children pet a strange dog, it is definitely not OK. However, as others have already said, I don't think this thread is about "dogs" it's about how you treat friends.

Riggie Mon 24-Oct-22 17:05:25

Equally “nasty” of her to think she should be able to do that don’t you think?

Not at all Lathyrus. As the OP has said, several people in the group have taken their dogs on previous occasions, so she was just following precedent. If someone had then decided the group was to become dog free it should have been communicated to everyone before the outing, not by excluding someone on the day.

Lathyrus Mon 24-Oct-22 17:01:34

Amalegra

I would have gone home! To eat alone when it is perfectly feasible to eat together is an absolute no no and you cannot leave a dog tied up outside. Miserable bunch! You are far better off with your dog!

By perfectly feasible do you mean the people who didn’t want to eat with dogs in the Conservatory (which was everyone except one person) should have just put up with it so that one person could have her way.

Feasible but is that a reasonable thing to expect. That everyone else should give way to you?

knspol Mon 24-Oct-22 16:58:32

I would have gone straight home too, really unpleasant of them to exclude you this way. Wouldn't be rushing to see them again.

Amalegra Mon 24-Oct-22 16:57:50

I would have gone home! To eat alone when it is perfectly feasible to eat together is an absolute no no and you cannot leave a dog tied up outside. Miserable bunch! You are far better off with your dog!

Lathyrus Mon 24-Oct-22 16:56:06

Riggie

I'd have gone home too. I guess it was their way of saying you should not have taken your dog. How nasty of them though.

No, just that bringing her dog shouldn’t mean that the OP could then dictate whether other people should eat.

Equally “nasty” of her to think she should be able to do that don’t you think?

Riggie Mon 24-Oct-22 16:51:59

I'd have gone home too. I guess it was their way of saying you should not have taken your dog. How nasty of them though.

Zoejory Mon 24-Oct-22 16:50:51

Hear, hear

Blondiescot Mon 24-Oct-22 16:48:16

Dianehillbilly1957

Would have sat with my dog, probably better company!!

A dog - any dog - would be better company than some of the posters on here, that's for sure! No wonder I prefer dogs to humans any day of the week - they're far less judgemental, for one thing.

Geordiegirl1 Mon 24-Oct-22 16:46:50

Perhaps they don’t like eating with dogs.

Dianehillbilly1957 Mon 24-Oct-22 16:42:09

Would have sat with my dog, probably better company!!

Vintagejazz Mon 24-Oct-22 15:31:28

Anyhow we don't have all the facts. Did OP say 'can we sit in the conservatory?' And everyone said' no we want to go inside'.
Or did OP just assume everyone would eat in the conservatory and then realise they'd all gone inside?

Also had she just brought the dog along, again assuming everyone would sit in the conservatory? Or had she agreed in advance the dog would come?

Idunnsapple Mon 24-Oct-22 15:26:17

Your friends were unkind, but perhaps they didn't want to eat next to the dog? It's not the best weather to eat outside either.
Saying that, I would have sat with you.