Now I’ve seen everything!

Not quite sure what you mean.

No it’s not disruptive enough?

Or no to a few deaths?

harrigran

Was it in Germany where they asked for access to toilet facilities and to be provided with food ?
The work force turned the heat off and lights out and went home, now that is what I call common sense.

They use more common sense than us; it's not unkind, just practical.

Just think of all the energy that would have been used in heating and lighting otherwise.

No, Lathyrus you are making assumptions about me.

I know that it's not always possible to read every post on a long thread, I'm guilty of that as much as the next person.

But in a thread of less than two pages, is it too much to hope for that people don't just keep making the same objections to things when they have been already addressed less than four hours earlier?

Were they sniffing the glue before using it to stick themselves to objects?

Yes, they may have raised awareness of their cause, but not in a positive way.

They've certainly not made me want to rise up and join them, or cheer them on.

They are not choosing their targets wisely - like the grandfather last year(?) who glued himself to an ELECTRIC underground train "to improve the planet for his grandchildren". Just how was that to be achieved?

I've heard them say that a few lives don't matter because there will be many more lives lost due to climate change. Do they really think that all these protests will actually reduce climate change? Unless China and the USA are on board there is no hope.

NotSpaghetti

That's interesting Volver I think pickets outside Shell, or BP and gluing to the gates there would be better and more in line with objectives. I think that blocking roads and only letting emergency services through is ok. I think the bridge protest (which also let emergency vehicles through) was a better option too.

I don't think it's really a protest if it doesn't disrupt.

A you g woman died in a road accident because the ambulance had to make a detour that took longer.

Is that disruptive enough for you.

I suppose they would argue that climate change will cause more, so a few due to protests don’t really matter.

Yes. It was the police that didn't let emergency vehicles over the bridge.
Given that I understand they were on the same side of the bridge I would have expected the police to use the other side for emergencies.
The protesters did talk about emergency vehicles re the bridge protest.

I should have said "could have let". True.

I wonder could I glue myself to a protester in protest?

Notspaghetti - they don’t let emergency vehicles through. The roads both sides of the Dartford crossing were blocked, including the hard shoulder at one point. The protesters on top of the QE2 bridge weren’t stopping anything, it was the police who closed the road. The previous Saturday they stopped an emergency vehicle getting through on Shoreditch High Street. I assume you don’t live in London or the surrounding areas which have had the most disruption, if you did you would feel very differently about this.

BlueBelle
Thought the same !
I agree with others leave them there ...
Complete idiots ... bet some of their family are pleased ... NOT ..
Until they are made to pay every penny back , in damage , emergency services etc will continue ... need to hit where it hurts ... no money , well tough ... lots of jobs they can do ... gardening, clean off graffiti, pick up litter ... many more jobs ... also how do they get to these protest ? Say no more !

That's interesting Volver I think pickets outside Shell, or BP and gluing to the gates there would be better and more in line with objectives. I think that blocking roads and only letting emergency services through is ok. I think the bridge protest (which also let emergency vehicles through) was a better option too.

I don't think it's really a protest if it doesn't disrupt.

I'm going to post this then go and make soup or something.

The protestors are trying to draw attention to the fact that the powerful, governments and so on, are doing next to nothing about mitigating climate change. We have had all kinds of protests in the past, and yet still the government are granting new licences to Oil and Gas companies and paying lip service to the "net zero" idea.

By making people think they are defacing works of art they are drawing attention to the cause. Would we all be talking about it if they had a picket outside Shell, or BP? No, we wouldn't. But make a mess of the waxwork of the King, and oh my, people are outraged.

I don't agree with the bridge protest and I didn't agree when they glued themselves to an underground train a few years ago. But I don't call them idiots or anything like that and I have sympathy for their cause. I do however, think it can be counterproductive to affect transport because they antagonise the public who then won't take time to understand what they are protesting about.

But as far as I'm concerned, they can glue themselves to as many bits of perspex in art galleries as they want to, in order to raise awareness.

Anyway, it will stop tomorrow. It's an October Protest.

volver

^I have indicated quotes in the prescribed manner.^

Aye? You haven't though. 🤣🤣🤣

Sorry Volver dear. Did I get it wrong ATY?😱

Re the protestors, everyone agrees they have a good cause and the right to protest. But the targets are so inappropriate. Why King Charles (who was on their side before they were born)? Why works of art (are they causing climate change)? These targets are just plain stupid and meaningless. They should find people and things which are relevant to their cause.

I suppose it depends what you think is "unpleasant".

I think this is quite sour and unpleasant. You may disagree:

They should just be left, in situ, glued or whatever, no contact, no food or drink, ignored.

Idiots.

If anyone makes sour and unpleasant remarks, be prepared to be argued with.

Every thread gets turned sour and unpleasant. Best to totally ignore the comments which do this.

I have indicated quotes in the prescribed manner.

Aye? You haven't though. 🤣🤣🤣

harrigran

Was it in Germany where they asked for access to toilet facilities and to be provided with food ?
The work force turned the heat off and lights out and went home, now that is what I call common sense.

Yes, they are shouting about " inhumane treatment" as they were left in the dark and were cold and didn't get their pizza delivery. Apparently Volkswagen should be "ashamed of themselves". You'd think they would be pleased that all that electricity, gas and petrol was saved wouldn't you?

Lathyrus
Tubs and tubs of glue made from?

A mountain of orange paint that needs pollutants to manufacture and clear up.

I wonder how they travelled to the protests.

Are we allowed to make comments or ask questions like that?

Somebody won’t like it, but I have indicated quotes in the prescribed manner and used a spellchecker.

It wasn't you Yammy.

Ignore me if you like, your prerogative. Is the coven thing a pleasant little nod to Halloween?

volver

On this thread, which is in Chat remember, protestors and/or their actions have been called stupid, bonkers and idiots, the police's knowledge and implementation of the law has been questioned, I've been told to give myself a rest, and I've had my intelligence obliquely questioned by a poster who doesn't seem au fait with the operation of a spellchecker.

But I'm the one with anger issues. 🤪

You can't leave it alone, can you? There you go again making fun of the fact I accidentally missed a letter out of a word.
Give yourself a break lassy or you will find that you will close Grans' net down as we will all ignore the posts or should I say rants you indulge yourself with which seem to be most and your little coven of followers fall for it every time
Have we found the Queen bee and her workers? there's certainly always a sting in your tail.

Comparatively few people look at pictures in art galleries, whereas climate change will put a majority of people to death sooner and more unpleasantly.

Those who decry protesters should suggest other means of protest that would do the job of alerting people to the urgent danger of climate change,

volver

Germs?

On this thread, which is in Chat remember, protestors and/or their actions have been called stupid, bonkers and idiots, the police's knowledge and implementation of the law has been questioned, I've been told to give myself a rest, and I've had my intelligence obliquely questioned by a poster who doesn't seem au fait with the operation of a spellchecker.

But I'm the one with anger issues. 🤪