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Self care and self neglect

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VioletSky Wed 02-Nov-22 12:42:52

Hopefully this doesn't sound daft.

I think most of us probably know what self care is even of we aren't finding enough time to do it but what about self neglect?

Silly really but I was just doing the ironing and realised that I spend far less time pressing my clothes than I do everyone else's

What do you do for self care?

Are there any ways you are neglecting yourself?

What can you do about it?

CBBL Sat 05-Nov-22 18:51:58

I try to look after myself a little, though I do neglect my hair, which is extremely fine and thin. I'm apt to put off hairdressing visits because of cost, and the fact that it doesn't seem like much of an improvement! I use a hair cutting comb ( the kind with razor blades in) to keep my hair a bit tidier.

Prentice Sat 05-Nov-22 18:17:25

Romola

My DH died last month and I'm struggling to eat and exercise properly.
So I suppose this is a form of self-neglect. Self-esteem at rock bottom too.

Romola that is what bereavement does, but you will get past this in time.flowers

Prentice Sat 05-Nov-22 18:15:40

Bijou

Because of my lack of mobility and being in constant pain I do my best to look after myself with only an hours help daily. I get my own meals and eat healthily, cut my hair, and nails and although I am housebound and do not see anyone dress well, use some lipstick. Cannot shower or wash hair by myself. Help does this once a week. There is little ironing. Help does it.
Since the start of Covid have only seen the doctor once. The couple of times I had a fall a paramedic has come. I am told that doctor is rarely seen now. Appointments are made with a nurse or on line.

I see you are a very independent lady, but as we age we do have to accept help.I am sorry to hear of your constant pain.
Do you manage to see any of your family?It can be a lonely life at times.
I tried to cut my own hair during the lockdown, it is very curly and I thought I could do it, but ended up like a sheared sheep.

Blondiescot Sat 05-Nov-22 18:13:49

Larsonsmum

You question Stella1949 on her GP appointments. Perhaps you are in great health maddyone. My GPs have to see me weekly or fortnightly, and I am also seen by my 12 different consultants very frequently, given that I live with multiple chronic, progressive and incurable illnesses and conditions.

If someone was in 'great health', they wouldn't need to see a GP. It's obviously much easier to get an appointment in some areas than others. What about someone who has discovered a suspicious lump, but finds themselves in a similar position to FranT where you have to phone in the morning, but the lines are all engaged and then all appointments are gone? It's hardly the type of situation where you can just rock up to A&E either? Should you just give up trying until it's too late?

Jaxie Sat 05-Nov-22 18:09:22

Gardening wrecks my nails, little hairs appear on my chin that I can’t see to pluck out, I am so bored with cooking that sometimes I just eat beans on toast.

MadameChirac Sat 05-Nov-22 17:42:47

My youngest sister has suffered with alopecia totalis for most of her adult life and it's been the cause of much heartache for her. With only sparse eye lashes and no eyebrows or hair at all, she's struggled with things that most women take for granted such as make up for example. It's had a devastating effect on her self confidence. Like Miss Adventure says, wigs are initially a good idea but soon become very uncomfortable and hot when worn all day and she's tried many different types.

Larsonsmum Sat 05-Nov-22 17:42:12

You question Stella1949 on her GP appointments. Perhaps you are in great health maddyone. My GPs have to see me weekly or fortnightly, and I am also seen by my 12 different consultants very frequently, given that I live with multiple chronic, progressive and incurable illnesses and conditions.

FranT Sat 05-Nov-22 17:23:23

Unfortunately I can relate to this, I lost my husband 5 year ago, then my Keyworker Daughter 2 years ago to Covid, she left my 4 Grandchildren, who thanks to her Husband, who she discovered had had been having a 5 year affair, she had started divorce proceedings against him, but he inherited everything, he moved in with his lover, sold the 2 properties, and rendered my Grandchildren homeless and penniless, he has since had a lavish wedding and 2 week Honeymoon in Mexico, talk about the good, the bad & the ugly, the last two most certainly apply to him, still waiting for this Karma to kick in! Hope you get there eventually, and your self esteem improves, baby steps, and grieve in your own way, and you will get there, with the support of friends and family, my thoughts are with you.

FranT Sat 05-Nov-22 17:07:56

You must belong a better practice than mine, or most people I know, we're told to ring 8am, but all appointments taken, you're lucky if you can get either a telephone, or if you're in real need, a Facetime appointment with a nurse practitioner, in real distress, told to attend A & E, where minimum of 8 hours wait, or emergency ring 999, where you're extremely lucky of obtain a fast response, daunting prospect indeed!

Sharina Sat 05-Nov-22 16:48:45

Been there and I understand. Courage!

Bijou Sat 05-Nov-22 16:37:58

Because of my lack of mobility and being in constant pain I do my best to look after myself with only an hours help daily. I get my own meals and eat healthily, cut my hair, and nails and although I am housebound and do not see anyone dress well, use some lipstick. Cannot shower or wash hair by myself. Help does this once a week. There is little ironing. Help does it.
Since the start of Covid have only seen the doctor once. The couple of times I had a fall a paramedic has come. I am told that doctor is rarely seen now. Appointments are made with a nurse or on line.

Kate1949 Sat 05-Nov-22 16:17:53

Romola flowers

win Sat 05-Nov-22 15:48:30

Self care is looking after your own well-being in general. Food, exercise, mindfulness and being kind to yourself.
Carers very often put their cared for first and tend to put themselves at the very bottom, this is not good as you cannot care well for others unless you care well for yourself. You need at least 30 minutes a day when you put yourself first. Do what you want to do and totally relax doing it. Taking additional time out for hobbies and friends will give most of us a well earned boost. Having a good pamper session is wonderful for most of us too, particularly if someone else is pampering you. Enjoy and reap the b3nefits.

M0nica Sat 05-Nov-22 15:48:05

I confess that I have always had several outside interests and hobbies that I have followed before my marriage and since, I did this through child having and rearing. I have never thought of it in terms of self care or self neglect or even thought about it at all .

My approach to life has always been to stuff as much into it as possible can. I liked looking after my home and family, although I greeted every sign of independence in my children with relief, I had a job and career I enjoyed and outside interests, DH and I were always determined that we should have more in our lives than just home and work and ensured each other did.

I think this idea of the perfect woman being the one who makes the biggest martyr of herself is absorbed into people by how they were brought up. Fortunately I have three generations of women behind me who by circumstances or conditioning brought their daughters up to be self sufficient and assuming that they could live as independently as their DH's, and were either widowed or had DH's who were quite happy with this.

Nellietheelephant Sat 05-Nov-22 15:30:30

I don't have anything like a serious hair loss problem (yet) but am slowly getting thinner on top and at the front. To try and combat this, I "comb over" my hair from a side parting and use a quite expensive product called Plantur 39, as suggested by my hairdresser. I just lightly massage in a little every night on the relevant site. It's called a Phyto-Caffeine Tonic. I think, and hope, it's working! Vanity, vanity, all is vanity. Def a first world problem too.

Romola Sat 05-Nov-22 15:26:45

My DH died last month and I'm struggling to eat and exercise properly.
So I suppose this is a form of self-neglect. Self-esteem at rock bottom too.

RillaofIngleside Sat 05-Nov-22 15:02:18

I feel very hedonistic reading all these posts. I worked hard in a very stressful job for 45 years looking after other people, their children and my own family. Since I retired I rarely iron. Housework is generally a mad dash when someone is coming. I spend an hour a day playing the piano, make sure my nails and hair are done regularly, have started using face creams (not sure what good they do!). I go to the gym regularly for weights and cardio, cook healthily and attend classes at my local retirement centre. I meet friends regularly, attend WI, have day trips out and go on holiday with DH. I love my retirement. I realize I probably have a limited active life left in terms of years, and am determined to make the most of it, and stay fit as long as I can. Oh, and look after my grandchildren 3 times a week and voluntary work, so not all me-time. But if I don't care for myself, who will?

Annewilko Sat 05-Nov-22 14:40:23

Kate1949

Since I lost my hair I struggle to care anymore. Yes I know worse things happen.

It doesn't matter that "worse things happen", they haven't happened to you, hair loss has and that is what is a worry for you. flowers

Aldom Sat 05-Nov-22 14:28:13

effalump

My self care is living the way I want to, not the way other people want me to. During the economical mess we're in at the moment, I don't consider ironed clothes as 'self care', especially if you're not actually out and about. I live like a hermit, not much of a people person these days. I'm healthy, I take a lot of care in keeping my immune system as healthy as possible without relying on others to do it for me. I eat as healthily as I can afford and make compromises where I can without denying myself too much. You have to live within your means at this time and believe with all your heart that this too shall pass and our lives will get so much better rather than worse. Believe it or not, but this is the most exciting time anyone could wish to be alive. You may not think so at the moment but remember that whatever you see may not be as it seems. Try not to be sucked into the Fear theme and begin to imagine how wonderful your future lives can be.

I would be interested to know how old you are as you are looking to 'the future'. Perhaps you are considerably younger than some of us on Gransnet?

VioletSky Sat 05-Nov-22 14:27:37

I'm taking notes and walking sounds like such a small but very positive difference

I'll get my wellies

FleurBaladine Sat 05-Nov-22 14:15:35

How do you get to see your doctor once a month? I want to live where you do!

Ilovecheese Sat 05-Nov-22 14:14:00

Also, my children ironed their own clothes from the age of twelve.

Ilovecheese Sat 05-Nov-22 14:12:57

I feel differently about ironing. I watch a good film or drama while I do it which means I rather look forward to it and feel like I am treating myself.

jocork Sat 05-Nov-22 14:08:12

Since retiring I've joined a weekly 'Simply Walk' group which is run by volunteers via the council, so is free. We walk for an hour then have a sociable coffee at the hall where we start off. As I got fitter I stopped driving to the meeting place and walked there instead adding another half hour walking. I'm realising this is self care - looking after my health and fitness. I lost weight by using a Fitbit and generally walking/moving more and am now over 4 stones lighter than at my heaviest. I'm fitter now than I've been in years. getting fit is a virtuous circle. The fitter you get, the easier it is to get fitter and stay fit!

I do neglect other aspects of self care though, as I gave up on hairdressers years ago and now have less hair so even less inclined to bother. I've never worn make up apart from a bit of eyeshadow and mascara occasionally, and no longer bother with that any more. The last time I had a hair cut or wore makeup was my son's wedding over five years ago! I don't spend on clothes much either as being retired means I don't need to look as smart day to day. If I invest in clothing now it will be comfy shoes and warm jumpers to save on the heating!

Saggi Sat 05-Nov-22 13:19:41

Any time spent ironing is self neglect. What a wasteful occupation . Nothing needs ironing anymore . Kids school shirts get dried on hangers ….they put them on…and any crease left is taken out by body heat … school trousers hung over hangers in their original creases, no need for ironing !!!
And guess what….in winter the school kids cover their creased shirts ( if any) with pullovers. My daughter has a 10 and 15 year old …they’ve both survived school without my daughter owning an iron!