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Daddima Wed 02-Nov-22 14:52:51

Seeing the widespread wearing of headscarves ( or ‘headsquares’ as my mother called them), do any of you wear them?
And, watching Princess Margaret’s wedding, did any of you promise to ‘obey’ ( I didn’t), and if you did, did you ever have to keep your vow?

silverlining48 Tue 08-Nov-22 13:34:20

Q2 married in 1969 register office , dont think obey came up but if it had would have refused.

silverlining48 Tue 08-Nov-22 13:31:21

I still have some of my mums headscarves. My children will have to decide what to do with them when the time comes.
They might be relieved I gave her corsets and petticoats, to the charity shops ( asked first and they were actually interested) though it took some years before I was able to do it. Too sentimental by half.

Sipti1983 Tue 08-Nov-22 12:54:38

Chestnut

It was ladies born in the early 20th century who wore headscarves. My mother wore one on occasions. The boomers (of which I am one) wouldn't be seen dead in a headscarf!

Married in 1977 so I did say "I obey". Its never been taken literally and no-one orders anyone smile. 45 years later we are still together and happy, so whatever we said on that day clearly worked smile

SJV07 Sun 06-Nov-22 10:41:42

Our late Queen wore headscarves, jolly nice ones, and I also wear one quite frequently. Keeps ears warm and goes under mac hood! It is a generation thing! I hate hats!

pen50 Sun 06-Nov-22 04:05:07

Didn't promise to obey either time. But I'm pretty easy-going so I doubt it would have made a lot of difference.

Headscarves have never worked for me. I have a large, round head and whichever fashionable way I tried to tie them, it just looked stupid. So I gave up. Hats are tricky too.

Yammy Sat 05-Nov-22 19:50:02

I married in 1973 and had to obey cut out of my vows along with some others. The Minister said it was the quickest ceremony ever even under the banyan tree in India.
Then the photographer confessed he had no film in his camera so it was an action replay with no congregation.
I tied my headscarf behind my head, a la Grace Kelly, I still do when the top is down on the car.

Candelle Sat 05-Nov-22 18:58:06

Obey? I can't remember our wedding service very clearly but it's highly unlikely that I would have agreed to that!

My mother (born in the second decade of the twentieth century) wore a headscarf when returning from the hairdresser. Clearing out her effects I found a drawer of silk squares so perhaps she did wear them as headscarves and it's just that I don't remember.

RillaofIngleside Sat 05-Nov-22 18:23:28

I did stutter over the promise to obey, I forgot to take it out if the service! But neither of us have ever mentioned it since. We try to discuss things sensibly.

SueDonim Sat 05-Nov-22 18:18:48

Are, thank you, Milest0ne, that’s very kind of you. smile

Sharina Sat 05-Nov-22 16:56:03

No and yes. I had to promise to obey but believe me, my husband soon learnt not to order me to do anything. As a joke he commanded me to wash his feet. I threw his shoes up a tree and used extremely hot water to wash his feet. Fortunately those days are long past. Nowadays, there’s little confrontation. Life is good.

nipsmum Sat 05-Nov-22 16:12:23

I'm sure when I got married in 1966 I promised to obey. I don't remember it being an issue then. It was the till death us do part that was an issue for my former husband.

rascalsgran Sat 05-Nov-22 15:13:04

I didn’t promise to obey when married 1970, didn’t think it necessary, and it hasn’t been. Never worn a headsquare, but my Mum did, and she always wore a hat to Church and a Kangol woolly hat in the winter. I remember vividly helping her to choose her new hat each season, they weren’t flashy but suited her. I wear a beanie in the cold.

Milest0ne Sat 05-Nov-22 15:12:26

Sue Donim.. Even if you look like Nora Batty or Enna Sharples, that is nothing to worry about. I met both of them and they were both lovely caring people. Inner beauty is best

inishowen Sat 05-Nov-22 14:16:25

Married 1973. The vicar told me he wouldn't include obey in the ceremony. A far thinking man.

Happysexagenarian Sat 05-Nov-22 14:12:29

My Mum wore headscarves and always had one in her handbag together with a plastic rain hood. She also wore a headscarf, tied WWII style, to protect her hair when doing housework or decorating. My GM never wore a headscarf, thought they were 'common'.

I have worn headscarves in open top cars, or walking along windy seafronts when on holiday.

I was a far from an obedient girl/woman but I did agree to obey in my wedding vows simply because I'm quite traditional. But in over 40 years of marriage my obedience has never been requested, it's never been necessary, but if it ever was I'd be obeying out of love and respect for my husband not because of the vow I had taken.

Zetacatty Sat 05-Nov-22 13:55:09

biglouis

My mother wore one but it was folded into a triangle and the ends knotted on top of the head. Then the pointed bit was tucked in to form a turban. She told me that the fashion began in munitions factories to keep women's long hair out of the way of machines.

That’s what my mother wore when she did housework.
I never promised to obey - sod that! I remember there was a lot of discussion around it when Princess Anne married Mark Phillips.

Saggi Sat 05-Nov-22 13:22:06

Civil ceremony me….and no , would never obey anybody once I’d passed the age of 13 …. also when my new husband refused to wear a wedding ring … so did I! Been married reasonable contentedly for 50 years.

Theoddbird Sat 05-Nov-22 13:01:01

I wear a scarf tied round my head and knotted on top every day...have around 30...all different colours. I don't watch The Crown...it is a gossip prog...

Thisismyname1953 Sat 05-Nov-22 12:56:00

I was married in 1972 and definitely didn’t say obey in my vows . Why would I?

SueDonim Sat 05-Nov-22 12:37:16

grin Queenofhearts. My Dh has taken to wearing a baseball cap in the sports car, too. 🤔 Better than him wearing a headscarf, I guess!

I forgot Q2 - no, I didn’t promise to obey.

GrammarGrandma Sat 05-Nov-22 12:24:24

No and no. Married 1972 and kept own name.

SiobhanSharpe Sat 05-Nov-22 12:03:40

Married in 1977, definitely didn't promise to obey. (Vicar took one look at me and didn't even ask if I wanted it included,)
Headscarves (or squares) no no no. I might have knotted one around my neck occasionally or tied it onto a handbag strap to go with an outfit but on the head was far too 'old-lady'. See below.
But my mother, born 1925, wore them almost all the time. Much like the Queen whenever she was off-duty.
I'm an old lady myself now but I still would not countenance a headscarf on my head. Hats look loads better on me but even those I only wear in cold weather.

Alison333 Sat 05-Nov-22 11:47:19

I got married in 1984 and the vicar told me that if I didn't promise to 'obey' in the service we wouldn't be properly married! He then went on to say kindly that he would pray for us anyway - it still makes me cross when I remember that. The 'obey' bit was left out and here we are still married 38 years later!

Queenofhearts Sat 05-Nov-22 11:43:48

SueDonim

I wear one when out in our open top sports car! I like to think I look like Grace Kelly or Audrey Hepburn but I fear I’m more Nora Batty or Ena Sharples. grin

Oh that made me laugh 😂. I'm the same but have taken to wearing a baseball cap. Not sure it looks much better 🤔

Nanna58 Fri 04-Nov-22 19:51:38

Never worn a headscarf and didn’t promise to obey .
Incidentally never worn a wedding ring either, in 43 years of being married.