The case against ID cards

I figure whatever I have to hide, I am such an over-sharer, "they'll" get me with or without an ID Card!

Nothing to hide here. Boring as…

Am I the only one who does have things to hide? On the 'confession' threads a couple of weeks ago everybody was admitting to all sorts.

I knew you had something to hide volver and I will be informing the Scottish police in a minute, when I have finished my piece of toast.grin

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Exactly so grannypiper this is not 1922 but 2022, times have changed immensely.A long time ago I would have felt differently about having an ID card, but now I think it would be an excellent idea.It won’t happen soon, but I think it will within ten years.
I knew you had something to hide volver and I will be informing the Scottish police in a minute, when I have finished my piece of toast.

In Gibraltar they have a resident's ID card. The Police do stand on street corners asking to see your ID. I carried Military ID for over 20 years, it never once bothered me.
For all those talking about being tracked using your ID, you are on SM !

Sounds practical Cold.

I have had a Swedish i/d card (both the immigrant and the citizen type) for several decades . my current one is biometric and cost £32 for 5 years

- I have never been asked to produce it by Police

- It's biggest use has probably been in healthcare (prevented an incorrect procedure once when the nurse mixed me up with another patient) and collecting parcels from the village shop
- It was also useful when taking exams as it replaced several compulsory bits of paper i/d
- used to use it in a card reader to access my medical and social security records although these days I have downloaded the app version
- can be used in place of a passport for travel to many EU countries

There are still no details of alternative ID for people who don't have any of the required paperwork. Some kind of national ID would be an advantage to these people.

My view on this growstuff...

The government are bringing in totally unnecessary measures for Voter ID which they say are to prevent a crime which basically doesn't exist. So your suggestion is that bringing in a system of ID cards would help people be able to achieve something that they can do now without any problems.

This makes no sense to me.

I have a huge amount to hide. I don't want anybody to know my real name as I am currently using an alias to overthrow the government in favour of a Scottish takeover. Everybody will have to wear kilts all day every day and eat deep fried Mars Bars. If the authorities knew where and who I really was they'd be round here quick as you like.

If we have to have ID cards my alias will be blown and everybody will know that I am a vegetarian atheist who supports human rights and thinks that Just Stop Oil have actually got a point.

Yes, I am afraid, and I have so much to hide. Obviously those are the only reasons I don't want ID cards. I'm a threat to society.

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GrannyGravy13

Yep, it’s been interesting.

Like I said up thread, 10 years ago I would have been against, now I cannot see a problem.

I cannot see any Government bringing in all encompassing ID cards in anytime soon.

Voter ID cannot see a problem with.

I disagree about Voter ID. The criteria have been announced and are discriminatory on grounds of age and wealth.

The main ID will be passport or driving licence. Poorer people don't have a passport because they can't afford to travel abroad and many don't have a driving licence because driving lessons are expensive. Many 18 year olds don't have driving licences either. Many older people don't have either, but they might have a bus pass.

The older persons' bus pass will be acceptable ID, but not students' ID cards or rail cards. This is discriminatory against younger voters, who tend to vote Labour.

The House of Lords attempted an amendment which would have allowed ID younger and poorer people are more likely to have, but this was rejected by the government.

There are still no details of alternative ID for people who don't have any of the required paperwork. Some kind of national ID would be an advantage to these people.

If you have nothing to hide why would an identity card be a problem? All our data is available to the authorities anyway :
What’s changed is the huge amount of refugees who are arriving , they disappear with no way of tracing them .The worrying part is that many are associated with criminal gangs who have paid their passage :

I'm not scared. I just don't want one.

Well one place you wont be moving to live without ID is Cyprus, so hurray for GB.

Curious - I've had lots of alcohol deliveries from Amazon and never been asked for ID. They just want to take a photo of me with the parcel outside my front door.

I've explained quite often why we don't want it. I'm not scared of it and if you don't know the real reason there's not much I can do about that.

GG13, interesting to see so many comments. I only started the thread to avoid diverting another thread which had strayed into this topic!

From 14 pages it looks like those who have an ID card have
no problem with it/have never been asked to produce it.
Alot of posters are amenable to it and the others are scared
it will , what I don't know, have big brother tracking them or some other terrible loss of freedom.

Yep, it’s been interesting.

Like I said up thread, 10 years ago I would have been against, now I cannot see a problem.

I cannot see any Government bringing in all encompassing ID cards in anytime soon.

Voter ID cannot see a problem with.

We have page after page discussing IACGMOOH. And numerous Corrie threads.

Anybody who's not interested can skip right along.

Unlike ID card schemes and voter id, it's not compulsory to take part. 😉

Basically we have had 13 pages discussing something that will in all probability not happen…

Why don't you listen to the program instead of indulging your need to try to paint me as the bad guy?

I'm quite concerned that I share an opinion with the Tories 😲. But the main Labour party think it's a non starter as well. Politicians haven't gone completely bonkers after all.

Yes Volver.
We know you don’t want an ID card and no one can make you have one.
Are you at all concerned about the potential benefits for others?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11403431/Downing-Street-rules-introducing-ID-cards-tackle-migrants-crisis.html

Sorry to post a link to the Mail but it's worth it for Kit Malthouse's comment: He added that it was 'not far to jump from that to us all having a barcode tattooed on us at birth'.

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www.globalplayer.com/podcasts/episodes/7Dreh9F/

James O'Brien show on LBC today. I guess he's been reading Gransnet. 😊

ID back on the cards for Labour

But let's not worry, eh? He's not worried though. Not yet, anyway...🙄

I had ordered some gift hampers from Harrods which contained champagne and port, DH had to provide photo ID to the delivery driver.