Where are you from? Is it an insult?

So were they friends of yours or you just saw them?

Both. Why does that matter?

There's the ones I was told I couldn't have perform at an international conference because "abos always turn up drunk". Or the Anglo person who told me they would step down from the committee we were on if I got bags made with traditional paintings on them to give away as promotional items. Or the opera singer who got stepped over in the street after she had a heart attack, because everybody assumed she was drunk.

They are not just another set of Australians "living a simpler life". They are living according to their own traditions which are ignored and sidelined by many non-aboriginal Australians. Such as is going on in this thread.

I just wondered to myself if this is why I get so annoyed about racism. The discrimination showed to the traditional inhabitants of Australia who have lived there for more than 50,000 years.

I will bow to your always superior knowledge volver

You obviously know far more than me about Australia and its peoples.

Callistemon21

^Mervyn Bragg saying how he had to quickly get rid of his Northern accent when he went to Grammar school and on to Uni^

That was then.

Melvyn Bragg is 83, a product of the 1950s grammar school system, where many of us had elocution lessons as part of the curriculum to enable us to get good jobs in later life. BBC pronunciation was of importance but even so, all this education and elocution lessons did not eradicate our accents totally.

Melvyn Bragg still has a less pronounced accent, as do I and many other people I grew up with.

Strong accents do not hold people back now although clear diction is essential still in some careers.

I take it your did not watch the programme on accents and the effect/influence it still has, today, on education and career prospects. In this particular instance, the legal professions. 3 nights ago.

The research carried showed very clearly how difficult it still is, in certain professions, to climb up the ladder if you speak with a non RP accent, Northern or otherwise. Yes, still now, today.
A pity you didn't watch it, as the evidence was very clear. Also very clear that add a different ethnic origin or parents, and skin colour, made this even more so.

This is not prejudice, or rubbish to fill my boots- but the reality, proven by clear and multiple research.

Prejudice is often hidden very deep, steeped in cultural roots and often unconscious.

MerylStreep

Fleurpepper
I know you watch British tv dispute the fact you are Swiss and live in Switzerland.
Has the wide range of accents on British tv passed you by?
Of course it hasn’t.
But that fact wouldn’t support your racists under the bed campaign, would it.
But you carry on and fill your boots with this rubbish.

Rubbish did you say? And how rude can you be, and totally irrelevant. I am very much British, thanks.

There are many on here who are currently not living in the UK- and yet, somehow, they never seem to be accused of not being British- and not told they have no right to be hugely disappointed, sad and even angry, at what is being done to this amazing country.

And racism is not 'just' about colour, you do realise this, yes?

Callistemon21

I will bow to your always superior knowledge volver

You obviously know far more than me about Australia and its peoples.

Probably.

And racism is not 'just' about colour, you do realise this, yes?

Could you explain to us the difference between race and ethnicity, please Fleurpepper?

Some definitions might be helpful.
Thank you 🙂

The 'classical reply':

Race refers to the concept of dividing people into groups on the basis of various sets of physical characteristics and the process of ascribing social meaning to those groups. Ethnicity describes the culture of people in a given geographic region, including their language, heritage, religion and customs.

However, from the middle of the 20C, the lines have become more blurred, and often inter-cross, and 'racism', just as 'prejudice', can be used to describe discrimination which is not directly linked to colour, or even race- but just on being seen as 'different', for whatever reasons.

As currently with racism towards those from the Balkans- who are the same colour and race as most of us.

As currently with racism towards those from the Balkans- who are the same colour and race as most of us

Well, I know that because they're our relatives 🙂

the same colour and race as most of us
However, you can't see us all 🤔

Most of us is still the majority in the UK.

Callistemon, I have mentionned it many times before. The reaction from some people, and institutions- to mixed race people, is VERY different depending on whether it 'shows' or not. People are only called 'mixed race' if it is evident from their looks. People who have a 'variety' of mixed race relatives, know that VERY well.

Was that meant to be a lecture?
It's not very clear.
🙂

Why would it be. A simple comment, very clear.

Sorry, but I don't know what you mean by your last post in relation to this discussion.

volver

Callistemon21

I will bow to your always superior knowledge volver

You obviously know far more than me about Australia and its peoples.

Probably.

Ha ha.
Nice one.

It’s really not hard to not do or say racist things. To apologise if you screw up

Yes, I agree.
Unfortunately Lady Susan didn't realise that she was being racist and then she persisted.
She did screw up and she has apologised.
I expect she has learnt a hard lesson and she won't be seen in public again either.

Unfortunately that was not enough,

Callistemon21

Sorry, but I don't know what you mean by your last post in relation to this discussion.

A pity- this discussion is about prejudice, and it comes in very many forms.

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

Sorry, but I don't know what you mean by your last post in relation to this discussion.

A pity- this discussion is about prejudice, and it comes in very many forms.

Yes, I know that but there must be a missing link between your posts about people from The Balkans and mixed-race people which I've missed or not understood. Sorry. 🤔

As currently with racism towards those from the Balkans- who are the same colour and race as most of us

The Balkans are quite a disparate group of countries.
Do you mean a specific country?