Where are you from? Is it an insult?

volver

Last night I went out with my partner and two other couples to a new, highly reviewed restaurant. Had a great time, a few wines and a couple of Sambucca.

Slightly sore head this morning but scrolled through here and saw your post from 20:00 last night. I’m still smiling. Hope you enjoyed your night as much as I enjoyed mine

Good.

If you ask someone in a kilt what they are wearing underneath it, "derision" would just be the start of it. Bit of pity, maybe?

'Cos we've never heard that "joke" before.

My cousin wore a kilt to his wedding he has no Scottish connection, he was working in Scotland at the time and the best man was Scottish.
It was fun at the time, nobody dare ask him what a Scot wore under his kilt.

Grandma70s

My brother wears his kilt to formal occasions. He comes from Hertfordshire, but the surname entitles him to wear a particular tartan. (I had a kilt as a child, but of course they aren’t really girls’ clothes.) We would both be able to describe our Highland heritage.

I get asked where I’m from, because I live in N England but don’t have a northern accent. Not everybody does.

I've been to a wedding in England where kilts were worn.
And, of course, Burns Night suppers in Wales.

Not forgetting when I was staying at a hotel in N Queensland and watched a wedding from my balcony where groom, best man, father of the groom and several guests were wearing their kilts 🙂

Most Scots have got past the conceit that you are "entitled" to wear a particular tartan. Wear what you like. It's a free for all.

My brother wears his kilt to formal occasions. He comes from Hertfordshire, but the surname entitles him to wear a particular tartan. (I had a kilt as a child, but of course they aren’t really girls’ clothes.) We would both be able to describe our Highland heritage.

I get asked where I’m from, because I live in N England but don’t have a northern accent. Not everybody does.

Is it an insult?

Some people "no!"

Other people "yes!"

Some people "I know! Let's go with no because that's the one I like"

Even though asking that obviously upsets quite a lot of people and not asking that costs nothing and upsets no one

tickingbird

Volver

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Anyone that believes this woman remembered this full conversation without a) the use of a wire or b) inventing some, at least embroidering what was said needs to give their head a wobble.

FGS!

It's not working...

25Avalon

Consider this. If an English person turns up wearing a kilt and a sporran with a badge saying their name is Hamish McTavish wouldn’t you think they were Scottish and ask them which part of the Highlands they were from?

If you ask someone around here wearing a kilt "what part of the Highlands they were from", you'd get a bit of an uncomprehending smile. Maybe the answer "Brigadoon".

Men wear the kilt as often as they can, where I come from. Weddings, Burns Suppers, Receptions at the Palace. (Holyrood Palace, of course.) And the rugby. I love to see the kilts at the rugby. We have the concept of "New Scots" here of course, so anyone who feels the urge can wear the kilt. My Spanish friend got married in one.

And if he was wearing a name badge saying Hamish McTavish, I'd think he was taking the p***.

My husband wears his kilt. What part of the "highlands" is he from?

Kent.

25Avalon, I would only be offended if the person wouldn't believe I came from somewhere else other than where the kilt was from and kept on asking questions to that effect. It's a bit like where on 2 occasions somebody has asked me when the baby was due. The first person accepted that I wasn't pregnant but it was left over from my last pregnancy. The second kept saying, "No, be serious, do you know what sex it is?" With the first person, I was embarrassed I looked pregnant but wasn't otherwise bothered. With the second, I felt humiliated. It's the insistence, not the original question.

We didn’t discuss all lives matter. If it’s an actual organisation I’m not aware of it. It’s all there so you can’t twist it as you normally do. Don’t address anything else to me in future please.

tickingbird

I didn’t even know there was such an organisation. No different from me suggesting you support KKK but I would never stoop so low. The pits.

If we had discussed the KKK, like we discussed 'All Lives Matter' you might have a point. But we didn't.

I didn’t even know there was such an organisation. No different from me suggesting you support KKK but I would never stoop so low. The pits.

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What neo nazi organisation would that be?

I should also add I have reported your post.

Sickening , truly sickening.

25Avalon

Consider this. If an English person turns up wearing a kilt and a sporran with a badge saying their name is Hamish McTavish wouldn’t you think they were Scottish and ask them which part of the Highlands they were from?

Yes, but A.. I wouldn't ask.
B.. if the subject came up and they told me, I wouldn't press the point.

Why would I?

Why does it matter to me?

Volver

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FGS!

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Consider this too. The charity is in support of abused women of Caribbean and African heritage. Not all Caribbean and African women are black. Ngozi therefore MUST question where their people are from as she obviously wouldn’t take a white woman at face value.

Her charity does seem dodgy - she’s the only employee. I hope it comes under very close scrutiny. BLM hasn’t exactly come up smelling of roses.

When people of colour say they've experienced racism, yes, we believe them. Just like we should believe women when they say they've been raped.

Exactly why the woman who claims Ngozi Fulani treated her appallingly because she wasn’t black enough HAS to be believed. Volver seems to think her claims are spurious. No wonder some defend this hypocritical behaviour - like to like and all that.

Consider this. If an English person turns up wearing a kilt and a sporran with a badge saying their name is Hamish McTavish wouldn’t you think they were Scottish and ask them which part of the Highlands they were from?

Summerlove

Callistemon21

"The incident on Tuesday, at a reception on gender-based violence

The incident on Tuesday, at a reception on gender-based violence

THE INCIDENT on TUESDAY, at a reception ON GENDER-BASED VIOLENCE

It's worth reminding everyone that the reception was intended to focus on worldwide violence against women and children, many of whom are suffering abuse as I post this.

Yes

A RECEPTION. Not a lecture. Not a symposium. Not a learning event.

A reception. To focus on congratulation those that do good work.

Tea and cakes.

Not sorting out how to stop the issues.

In other words- a party

Partygate again……

Callistemon21

^"The incident on Tuesday, at a reception on gender-based violence^

The incident on Tuesday, at a reception on gender-based violence

THE INCIDENT on TUESDAY, at a reception ON GENDER-BASED VIOLENCE

It's worth reminding everyone that the reception was intended to focus on worldwide violence against women and children, many of whom are suffering abuse as I post this.

Yes

A RECEPTION. Not a lecture. Not a symposium. Not a learning event.

A reception. To focus on congratulation those that do good work.

Tea and cakes.

Not sorting out how to stop the issues.

In other words- a party

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People here are often up in arms about being called "love" or what they consider ageist, sexist treatment.

I wonder how many would have been quite happy to be cross questioned by lady S.