Charles may pay for Andrew's security

That’s very true. But other high profile names have been mentioned too.
As I say, we will never know.

He's not a sex offender in the eyes of the law GagaJo, which is innocent until proven guilty; neither his innocence or his guilt was ever proved.

I think I’m more shocked by the colossal amount of money involved for PA’s security (regardless of who pays it).

£3 million p.a.?
How much do these security firms charge p.a.? Multiplied by several operatives to cover shift patterns & sick leave etc.

But £3 million? Sheesh. A mind boggling sum of money.

Charles pays for Andrew’s security with our money.

The guy is a sex offender and I'd say it to his face

M0nica

PA is an obnoxious man, I have friends who were in the navy, and he was cordially disliked, but he has not been charged or convicted on any sex charge. The woman who said she was underage when he slept with her, has admitted to making mistakes in her memories and she was not, at the time, underage under British law. I am not familiar with the kind of parties he attended, but I am not aware that these girls have their birth certificates tucked in their bras and every man consorting with them checks them first.

This is not to defend him in anyway, but while, like many men, he fancied sex with young women, no suggestion has ever been made that he had any interest in children.

How the King chooses to spend his private income is nobodies business but his.

I agree with M0nica*

He is sleazy and I know people who served with him who say he is pompous and arrogant (unlike his older brother).

However, the girls were groomed and were underage when he allegedly visited then in America.

He's not been found guilty in a court of law.

It's interesting, however, that he needs a high level of security. Perhaps there are others more powerful than him who worry that he could name them.

Well isn't that what big brothers are for? Send you to stand in the corner but still have some sympathy for you. Who knows what is the real truth if the woman in question can't remember and neither can PA remember meeting her?

We'll never know the real truth Yammy. As for the only two people who do know, one was prepared to pay to make it all go away, and the other prepared to accept payment.

Doesn't say much about either of them really does it.

M0nica

PA is an obnoxious man, I have friends who were in the navy, and he was cordially disliked, but he has not been charged or convicted on any sex charge. The woman who said she was underage when he slept with her, has admitted to making mistakes in her memories and she was not, at the time, underage under British law. I am not familiar with the kind of parties he attended, but I am not aware that these girls have their birth certificates tucked in their bras and every man consorting with them checks them first.

This is not to defend him in anyway, but while, like many men, he fancied sex with young women, no suggestion has ever been made that he had any interest in children.

How the King chooses to spend his private income is nobodies business but his.

This

Not going to frown on someone who was people trafficked getting compensation from the type of man who funds people trafficking

She got the closest to an admission of guilt and an apology she was able to

Urmstongran

I think I’m more shocked by the colossal amount of money involved for PA’s security (regardless of who pays it).

£3 million p.a.?
How much do these security firms charge p.a.? Multiplied by several operatives to cover shift patterns & sick leave etc.

But £3 million? Sheesh. A mind boggling sum of money.

Someone will be earning, from the King's money, out into the economy, IF PA's private security happens - paid as stated.

Good for the security firm.

Smileless2012

We'll never know the real truth Yammy. As for the only two people who do know, one was prepared to pay to make it all go away, and the other prepared to accept payment.

Doesn't say much about either of them really does it.

No it doesn't no scruples at all. I do feel sorry for any of their family, especially those who are getting pulled in when they don't know either.
What must PA's daughters think of him?

To say it must be hard for them would be an understatement Yammy.

His daughters have petitioned the King to reinstate their father, so no lack of loyalty from them.

Allegedly, protecting some in high places is the whisper! Clinton ? Allegedly.

Loyalty or wish to cleanse the family image?

Many victims of abuse are abused by family members. Often the victim is told to keep quiet or disbelievedby their own family and the offender protected.

That's a broken family

Where did you read that Jaberwok?

That doesn't apply in PA's case though, he wasn't accused of abusing a family member and his accuser accepted being 'silenced' with a financial settlement.

Yes it does

Many families (accirding to victims) will happily hide internal abuse to save face, external abuse would be even simpler

I'm not going to argue about the settlement, we disagree

PA's case isn't about abuse within the family VS, it's about a woman who claims to have been trafficked for sex, having sex with PA who knew she'd been trafficked.

Abuse within families is totally irrelevant to this discussion.

VioletSky

Yes it does

Many families (accirding to victims) will happily hide internal abuse to save face, external abuse would be even simpler

Here it is again

As I've said, PA's case was not about abuse within the family so abuse within families is irrelevant.

It’s no secret about Clinton. His name has been linked to Epstein for years. Lots of photos with the 2 of them.

Some families hide abuse, doesn't matter if its a family member or not that was abused

Wasn't exactly a secret about PA either was it Meryl. The whole world knew about the accusation.