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should the government be ashamed

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travelsafar Tue 20-Dec-22 14:08:48

Just listening to the 2pm and the dreadful circumstances with all the strikes taking place do you think the government should hang their heads in shame. Many people are at risk of not getting emergency care from ambulances and paramedics and if they do, A &E depts are unable to cope. The public who wish you see loved ones at Christmas face disruption to travel plans and all those of us who paid postage for cards and presents have been let down. It is a very sorry state of affairs and I feel ashamed of the Conservative party.

Nanatoone Tue 20-Dec-22 14:10:42

Yes, I’m very angry with them for actually putting the blame on low paid people for inflation, when in fact they are responsible for much of it.

CoolCoco Tue 20-Dec-22 15:08:06

They are just going to brazen it out and hope the public begin to turn on the strikers. I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not with the NHS staff. We are getting a below par service now and have been for several years. They need to get a grip or call an election.

J52 Tue 20-Dec-22 15:48:09

Will Quince, health minister, has suggested that the public avoid sports and driving tomorrow just in case they have an accident. What next!

Oreo Tue 20-Dec-22 15:55:46

Not completely to answer the OP
I think they should have sorted things out for the NHS as they are a special case you could say, after the pandemic.So a payrise of say 8 to 9%.
The train drivers and all others on strike, not so much!
I’ve not much sympathy for them tbh.As for postal workers!
Any government’s not responsible for all the ills in the country.
The railways were kept going by furlough, and this is what they now do.

Calendargirl Tue 20-Dec-22 15:56:29

Sounds like we had better hunker down in bed all day tomorrow, and not risk doing anything!

Joseanne Tue 20-Dec-22 16:01:27

J52

Will Quince, health minister, has suggested that the public avoid sports and driving tomorrow just in case they have an accident. What next!

What?
I'm glad I'm still away tomorrow because walking my crazy dog is a risky activity in itself.
But I do need to drive home on the M5 in the afternoon.

GagaJo Tue 20-Dec-22 16:04:59

Oreo

Not completely to answer the OP
I think they should have sorted things out for the NHS as they are a special case you could say, after the pandemic.So a payrise of say 8 to 9%.
The train drivers and all others on strike, not so much!
I’ve not much sympathy for them tbh.As for postal workers!
Any government’s not responsible for all the ills in the country.
The railways were kept going by furlough, and this is what they now do.

If the government isn't responsible, who is? That is literally their job, to run the country.

volver Tue 20-Dec-22 16:13:47

Calendargirl

Sounds like we had better hunker down in bed all day tomorrow, and not risk doing anything!

Or, move to Scotland. But don't plan on coming by train.

J52 Tue 20-Dec-22 16:15:32

I’m driving a long way, DH is going to the gym and I might play tennis.
On the other hand I could stay in bed and hope the ceiling doesn’t fall in.
General election soon please.

Aveline Tue 20-Dec-22 16:20:02

Out of the English frying pan into the Scottish fire?

volver Tue 20-Dec-22 16:24:57

But at least the ambulance will come and there'll be a nurse to look after you. 🤣

AGAA4 Tue 20-Dec-22 16:33:50

They should be ashamed but they aren't. It's the fault of the strikers that things are so bad according to this government.

Chrissielou Tue 20-Dec-22 17:55:09

In a word: YES

eazybee Tue 20-Dec-22 18:02:52

No, it is the people who are choosing to go on strike who are to blame.

GagaJo Tue 20-Dec-22 18:05:17

eazybee

No, it is the people who are choosing to go on strike who are to blame.

I hope that is an ironic statement.

Casdon Tue 20-Dec-22 18:05:38

They will be ashamed and embarrassed when they are forced to climb down and negotiate with the unions. I don’t think there’s any chance that staff will capitulate.

Ali23 Tue 20-Dec-22 18:11:00

I truly believe that the strikers have no choice. Its not just about pay. It’s about all of our safety too.
This government and those preceding it have so much to answer for.
Public services have been eroded for far too long.

Happygirl79 Tue 20-Dec-22 18:14:46

This government has no shame. It's always the same with them. Never the fault of the government. Blame the poor workers. They underestimate the power of the people and think we are all fools and will just carry on taking this abuse of power. The NHS nurses deserve to be paid properly, and people are behind them and turning ever more away from this Conservative government who have no real mandate except it seems to fill their own pockets

Philippa111 Tue 20-Dec-22 18:35:58

Yes, I also heard on the news that people have to stop their leisure pursuits and not even drive in case they hurt themselves or have an accident!! This is preposterous! The Government ought to hear themselves and take a long look at the outrageous situation that we are in because of their mismanagement. Their subtle message is poor government, their hands are tied and pointing at the 'offending strikers' and saying they are the ones that are putting your life at risk..... instead of actually admitting they have failed and are not taking responsibility. Shame on them.

Charleygirl5 Tue 20-Dec-22 18:43:27

Ambulance workers need a reasonable pay increase as they are poorly paid for their work and responsibility.

midgey Tue 20-Dec-22 18:48:49

Any government that thinks twelve hour shifts are acceptable should be ashamed in my opinion. I don’t blame the strikers, I blame management and the government.

Aveline Tue 20-Dec-22 19:49:17

volver- maybe, eventually after many hours if you can last that long.

volver Tue 20-Dec-22 19:52:19

When my mother had a heart attack, the ambulance arrived in 10 minutes. Earlier this year.

Although it suits some agendas to paint everything as black, its not true.

And if anybody says "just as well she didn't have a heart attack today then", I will report them.

MaizieD Tue 20-Dec-22 20:34:53

Just a wee reminder that the train drivers aren't on strike, Oreo. They are ASLEF. RMT is railway workers; station staff, track maintenance, guards etc. Not drivers.