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15 minute cities coming to your area soon

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maddyone Mon 20-Feb-23 09:31:11

Big brother strikes again. It’s unacceptable and a way to control the population.

VB000 Mon 20-Feb-23 09:26:39

BlueBelle

Big brother is watching you sounds very restrictive !

No I ve never heard of it and don’t like the sound if it what if you need to travel by car to a hospital or similar weekly what if you use your allowance up and a loved one becomes ill and you’re fined for visiting or something I can just see so many downfalls
I remember years ago because of pollution in their cities Greece had a scheme where people could only use their cars on alternative days I ve never heard how that went ?

The system in Athens was based on a even/odd number on registration plates, so you could use your car only on alternate days.

Those who could, just bought an extra car (opposite of what they already had).

Athens still has really high air pollution.

Margiknot Mon 20-Feb-23 09:16:18

I wonder how the scheme will work for people who already rely on their cars to get to work now. There may be no viable alternative for many people, unless all the alternatives are in place ( safer cycle and walk ways, joined up and adequate public transport, park and rides, care share schemes etc. If the Citie system is already in place before people move into an area- then ( in a perfect world - with full choices!) people will already have planned where to live to take account of the travel restrictions, available public transport and where they need to work/ attend etc. With housing costs and shortages, need to move jobs many times in a lifetime- needs of children and health and welfare needs of all ( so people cannot just up and move to get be near a bus route or walking commute) - I can see that very careful planning would be needed!

MerylStreep Mon 20-Feb-23 09:01:28

Unless the penalties are prohibitive I can’t see it working.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 20-Feb-23 08:56:02

MerylStreep

My city, Southend isn’t going to adopt the scheme.
When we lived abroad we didn’t pay anything if we didn’t go outside the zone. If we wanted to go into the city you bought a vignette for that day/days. Or, you bought a years vignette ( road tax)

We have AC and GC your way, have been watching this closely, especially as AC & partner work out of the area and we are on hand for the GC

Redhead56 Mon 20-Feb-23 08:49:20

I don’t have a problem with big brother cctv cameras etc. I have never heard of this scheme but it does sounds futuristic like social control a kind of curfew. People living in dormer towns away from work places facilities services etc. Not sure how this could work in the wider communities large cities etc.

NotSpaghetti Mon 20-Feb-23 08:43:33

Yes, petunia I have read about this but I feel your interpretation of it sounds a bit negative to me whereas my reading about it has lead me to feel quite positively towards it as a people-centered way to live.

dragonfly46 Mon 20-Feb-23 08:41:26

Me too GSM I don't need the cities!!
But 100 times a year is quite a lot if you don't need to go into a city for work - it is twice a week!
What do workers do if there is not public transport.
The bus and train companies are going to have to up their game!

BlueBelle Mon 20-Feb-23 08:39:25

Big brother is watching you sounds very restrictive !

No I ve never heard of it and don’t like the sound if it what if you need to travel by car to a hospital or similar weekly what if you use your allowance up and a loved one becomes ill and you’re fined for visiting or something I can just see so many downfalls
I remember years ago because of pollution in their cities Greece had a scheme where people could only use their cars on alternative days I ve never heard how that went ?

MerylStreep Mon 20-Feb-23 08:35:29

My city, Southend isn’t going to adopt the scheme.
When we lived abroad we didn’t pay anything if we didn’t go outside the zone. If we wanted to go into the city you bought a vignette for that day/days. Or, you bought a years vignette ( road tax)

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 20-Feb-23 08:31:17

Makes me pleased to live in a small village near a small market town.

petunia Mon 20-Feb-23 08:19:15

In recent months there has been increasing interest and chat around the concept of 15 minute cities. My understanding of the scheme is that within your own city zone, all your requirements for shops, education, health, recreation etc. will be available. Travel outside your zone on foot, public transport, cycle etc. will be allowed. However you would not be able to use your car more than 100 times per year to leave your zone to go into or cross another zone. To keep control of the use of cars, recognition cameras would monitor vehicle and fines issued to people who use their car to cross zones more than the allotted number of times. There would be exemptions for certain vehicles.

Oxford are proposing to launch this plan which will divide the city into zones quite soon leading to protests over the weekend. The interest in this scheme is widespread with many other councils coming forward to express future involvement in this way of organising their communities.

Have any of you grans-netters heard of this or had their council express an interest.