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Where was the Alley-Alley-O?

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Lizbethann55 Sat 25-Feb-23 16:40:36

Listening to nursery rhymes with my DGD yesterday, I began to wonder , where was the Alley-Alley-O?. Why did the big ship sail through it and was happened on the last day of September? And how many of you remember joining hands in the playground and passing under each other while you sang it?

Sparklefizz Sat 25-Feb-23 16:51:14

I remember singing this as a child. I googled and got dozens of different explanations:

www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-18017,00.html

BlueBelle Sat 25-Feb-23 16:52:26

ORIGIN

There is a bit of mystery behind the origin of the 'The Big Ship Sails'...

However it is thought that the tradional nursery rhyme has strong links to 'The Manchester Ship canal' and the Atlantic ocean.

It is also thought that that the rhyme was sung when the Manchester canal was opened in 1894 with the lyrics 'Ally Ally' referring to the canal passage.

Sparklefizz Sat 25-Feb-23 16:52:44

I grew up in Surrey so nowhere near any of the suggestions mentioned in the Guardian article.

Lizbethann55 Sat 25-Feb-23 18:23:14

Thanks Sparklefizz. I didn't know of the connections to the ship canal which doesn't put me in a very good light as I live very close to it and my late FiL was a foreman on the Salford docks.

Sparklefizz Sat 25-Feb-23 18:24:24

Lizbethann grin

TerriBull Sat 25-Feb-23 18:50:28

Yes definitely remember that from my earliest first days at school. In fact it was a life saver, before friendship groups were formed there were quite a few of us not quite 5 year old girls, not the boys, rather lost in the playground. Thankfully there was always a "Big Ship Sails on the Alley-Alley-O" going on willing to draw in the little'uns.

Also grew up in Surrey and had no idea of where it derived from, but interesting!

Septimia Sat 25-Feb-23 20:38:00

I grew up in Surrey as well. We always sang "The Big Ship sails on the Alley-Alley-O" rather than through - regional variation or reference to the Atlantic Ocean?

Sparklefizz Sat 25-Feb-23 20:47:00

Septimia

I grew up in Surrey as well. We always sang "The Big Ship sails on the Alley-Alley-O" rather than through - regional variation or reference to the Atlantic Ocean?

Yes, we sang "on" too.
Whereabouts in Surrey? I was in Guildford.

Grannybags Sat 25-Feb-23 20:55:24

We sang 'on' too I was in Kent!

Callistemon21 Sat 25-Feb-23 21:24:40

We sang on as well - Midlands.

I thought it was an ocean.

Callistemon21 Sat 25-Feb-23 21:29:31

The big ship sank to the bottom of the sea,
The bottom of the sea,
The bottom of the sea.
The big ship sank to the bottom of the sea,
On the last day of September.

We all dip our hands in the deep blue sea
The deep blue sea, the deep blue sea
We all dip our hands in the deep blue sea
On the last day of September.

Bellanonna Sat 25-Feb-23 21:54:29

I have sung that to all 3 grandchildren. We used to do lots of actions with it. I learnt the “on” version (Kent)

nanna8 Sat 25-Feb-23 22:00:07

I grew up in London,all the kids knew it. I assumed it was the Thames but clearly not.

Urmstongran Sat 25-Feb-23 22:08:22

We sang ‘on’. I was brought up in Manchester and went to a primary school in Old Trafford, a stone’s throw from the Ship Canal.

Terribull sweet playground memory there. 😊

NotSpaghetti Sat 25-Feb-23 22:11:44

Too many answers.
I used to think it wax the Suez canal.

www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-18017,00.html

NotSpaghetti Sat 25-Feb-23 22:13:16

Sorry Spatkle - I went away for ages and see you have posted this.

NotSpaghetti Sat 25-Feb-23 22:48:23

We sang "down" the alley-alley-o.
Near Urmstongran grin

Yammy Sat 25-Feb-23 23:12:48

I don't know where it was but definitely sang it in the school playground.

silverlining48 Sat 25-Feb-23 23:26:04

I sang ‘on’ as well (Kent)

Maggiemaybe Sun 26-Feb-23 00:08:49

The captain said this will never ever do,
Never ever do, never ever do.
The captain said this’ll never ever do
On the last day of September.

Our ship sailed through the alley, alley oh.

karmalady Sun 26-Feb-23 06:55:14

The big ship sailed on the alley alley oh

sang in liverpool

FannyCornforth Sun 26-Feb-23 07:17:43

Callistemon21

We sang on as well - Midlands.

I thought it was an ocean.

Yup, us little’uns too in the Black Country in the 70s

M0nica Sun 26-Feb-23 07:42:18

'on': London/Kent, Carlisle, Yorkshire, Oxfordshire, Hong Kong.

DanniRae Sun 26-Feb-23 07:58:07

I grew up in Surrey too ....... near Redhill!

I had forgotten that nursery rhyme - I will be singing it to my grandchildren now.

Thanks for reminding me smile