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FannyCornforth Sun 05-Mar-23 17:34:53

Hello
I’m surprised that this hasn’t been discussed already.
So, have you (ahem) inhaled?
And do you think that it’s beneficial to one’s mental health?

I’ll start. Yes and A Big Fat N

Galaxy Sun 05-Mar-23 20:01:13

Yes I have. I dont know on the second question, my friend has a complex mental health diagnosis which a medical professional said was linked to drug use. I dont know what I feel about its legalisation.

MerylStreep Sun 05-Mar-23 20:02:04

If this subject interests you this is a very good informative look at psychedelic drugs. On Netflix.

www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/michael-pollan-documentary-how-to-change-your-mind

LadyHonoriaDedlock Sun 05-Mar-23 20:13:14

Yes, it was pretty routine when I was a student (Univ. of Liverpool, 1972-75, where much of the product was supplied in the students union coffee bard by one Nick Lightowler who turned up a few years later as Nicky Tesco, lead singer of a punk band called The Members.

I was a heavy smoker then and I did inhale, although I was never one of the heavy users. Actually I preferred to do what some of my non-smoking friends did, melt the resin in students union coffee. Not only did it give a quicker and more defined hit, it actually improved the foul SU coffee.

I have indulged very occasionally since, though the last time would be more than 20 years ago now. Whether it affected my mental health is open to question. I have had issues with severe depresssion but no sign of psychosis, I'm assured.

VioletSky Sun 05-Mar-23 20:22:30

Yes and don't know

It did not agree with me, at all

imaround Sun 05-Mar-23 20:31:40

MerylStreep

If this subject interests you this is a very good informative look at psychedelic drugs. On Netflix.

www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/michael-pollan-documentary-how-to-change-your-mind

Thank you, I am going to watch this.

I do know that a few states here in the US have legalized mushrooms for use in very specific cases and that the research looks promising for PTSD treatment, but I have never dug deep in the science.

I will start this tonight as I don't have anything queued up.

Ailidh Sun 05-Mar-23 20:39:44

No, have never been offerred it, was in my 50s before I recognized the smell.

I support its legal, medical use.

MerylStreep Sun 05-Mar-23 20:53:05

Imaround
There is a good series on Radio 4 called Is psychiatry working
I think it was on the episode last week that they mentioned the come back of some of these drugs. Very interesting.

BlueBelle Sun 05-Mar-23 20:58:50

I unfortunately know a young man, well he’d be middle aged now, whose whole life was ruined by using cannabis it certainly tipped his mental health over and he’s never had a ‘
‘normal’ life of career, marriage, children and a lovely chap too
Alcohol is legal and look at the problem that causes I m not convinced it should be legalised other than in medically controlled circumstances

imaround Sun 05-Mar-23 21:00:40

Thank you @merylstreep. I will look at that too.

Grannybags Sun 05-Mar-23 21:06:47

Yes when young.

No I don't think it helps mental health. Probably quite the opposite if used to excess

farview Sun 05-Mar-23 21:07:38

Use occasionally...2 or 3 times a year...very relaxing...Harry obviously has issues..sadly.....no wonder..

Sago Sun 05-Mar-23 21:14:14

The skunk available now is a far cry from the “ dope “ that was around in the 80’s.
It is the cause of a lot of MH problems and anxiety.

Sparklefizz Sun 05-Mar-23 21:16:01

When Harry was using it, he was living here in the UK where it was illegal. Just saying .......

Dinahmo Sun 05-Mar-23 21:31:04

Yes, in my twenties.When I first encountered dope I did not want to indulge but then I got high on the exhaled smoke so started. Different times in the mid sixties but we used to meet in various flats, sit around listening to music and getting gently stoned. What we did not do is got and get pissed fall about the place getting into fights and throwing up in the street.

Both of us managed to stop smoking when we spent a holiday in ales with friends and smoked joints all day. No cigarettes on their own. The end of our holiday coincided with the end of the dope but we didn't start smoking again.
I also stopped smoking dope because bronchitis meant I could not inhale. So that was that.

I and friends also experimented with pyschedelic drugs, starting with banana skins baked in the oven. Didn't work. Then we moved on to acid taken on sugar lumps. Very gentle and interesting. This was before Sergeant Pepper.

LadyHonoriaDedlock Sun 05-Mar-23 21:41:17

Sparklefizz

When Harry was using it, he was living here in the UK where it was illegal. Just saying .......

Nobody would make anything of that because it would probably end up compromising half of the government. Although cocaine would catch more of them. Certainly those who came from the finance industry. The City of London runs on cocaine.

Wyllow3 Sun 05-Mar-23 21:43:13

MerylStreep

GrannyGravy13

Would legalising cannabis stop illegal skunk?

I don’t think the people using skunk would enjoy a milder smoke and that’s what they’ve been smoking for years.

It's not a case of milder or stronger, it's a completely different product.
www.diffen.com/difference/Hashish_vs_Marijuana

Wyllow3 Sun 05-Mar-23 21:45:14

"No I don't think it helps mental health. Probably quite the opposite if used to excess"

Excess and limits are the issue, just as alcohol is. Alcohol is legal in the UK.

rafichagran Sun 05-Mar-23 21:58:35

No and dont know.

henetha Sun 05-Mar-23 23:55:48

No. Not really. I've often wondered if it would help my back pain though.

Sparklefizz Mon 06-Mar-23 08:19:23

This is copied and pasted from an article today by Dr Max Pemberton, Psychiatrist:

Once again Prince Harry is wading into the debate on mental health with reckless ignorance, oblivious to the facts and the catastrophic effects his words could have.

He speaks about using drugs that are illegal in this country, proclaiming the benefits he has enjoyed from cannabis and hallucinogenics such as ayahuasca. It’s hugely irresponsible.

Harry plainly has no understanding of the serious damage these substances can wreak on users – damage that I see on mental health hospital wards with upsetting frequency.

FannyCornforth Mon 06-Mar-23 08:28:33

Thanks Sparklefizz
Like others I know a good few people who have been greatly affected by cannabis (mis) use.

I’ve just found out a bit more about the interview / therapy session that Harry did.
It’s actually ‘pay per view’ (around £20)
Therapy as entertainment sounds unethical.
The therapists that I know wouldn’t have engaged in anything like that

TerriBull Mon 06-Mar-23 08:59:07

Not a victimless crime, surely most people, including Harry would know now how drugs are moved around the country via youngsters sucked into County Lines. I imagine it's much the same in the US where criminal gangs are involved. Anyway isn't it illegal there in many states? I seem to remember John Lennon nearly getting himself deported due to his drug use.

TerriBull Mon 06-Mar-23 09:11:11

I do remember both my children dabbling with skunk, as others have said nothing like the milder stuff around in the 60s, it did them no good at all. Thank God it didn't become habit forming and those days are behind them.

Of course the benefits of Marijuana in the context of pain relief is a different matter and has many benefits I believe for conditions like MS for example and should be easier for sufferers to obtain. It's the recreational drug use contributing towards criminality that is such a problem.

karmalady Mon 06-Mar-23 09:18:54

Young adult male, a distant relative, smoked marijuana and the `strict` parents tried verything to get him off it. It changed his personality and his mental health, he became psychotic and one day the mum`s back was turned and he killed himself

So Harry smoked it in uk and now he has `come out` he is sending a poor message to the youth of today. Oh it is ok, Harry smoked it. Well he certainly gave no thought to those poor s*ds who are in the pit and being used by the drug gangs to supply his habit

For me no and no and I would not even recognise the smell

Sparklefizz Mon 06-Mar-23 09:21:01

www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-11823945/Prince-Harrys-words-cause-huge-harm-says-psychiatrist-DR-MAX-PEMBERTON.html