Marijuana, Cannabis etc (plus Bonus Harry)

A friend's son's smoking of cannabis has done irreparable harm to his brain. He has to be frequently sectioned and frankly his life is ruined - plus that of his poor Mum who has to cope with him.

What an absolute Dick that Harry is. Who cares what he did? I had some marijuana once but never again, it hurt when I inhaled so it is not for me. A couple of my daughters went through a marijuana phase at uni but they soon gave it up, thank goodness.

Sparklefizz

www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-11823945/Prince-Harrys-words-cause-huge-harm-says-psychiatrist-DR-MAX-PEMBERTON.html

Wow. What a powerful article, thank you for posting it Sparklefizz.

Where on earth is this runaway train that Harry is on going to end?

William must be beside himself with anger and despair.

I decided at an early age to look after my health.

I am not the strongest person in the first place, and felt I couldnt afford to potentially mess about with my health in any way.

Thanks for the link to the article Sparklefizz, if only someone could shut H up. Why on earth is he being given a paid platform to come out with this crap?

Well, on this issue of he cares about MH issues he shouldn't speak so,

although there is much more debate amongst psychiatrists than the article lets on.

but what else to expect from a newspaper that like shock scandal headliness? People whose children take cannaboids like my DGD and others for various conditions are not mentioned at all, and they should be. its all very either/or.

Its a complex current discussion as to some potential values but under very controlled use

and mostly because of the dodgy stuff out there does cause great harm.

1) no
2) no idea about mental health and marijuana

Harry has sent out a terrible message concerning drugs, and a great boost to the illegal drug trade. 'Clearly if he has found benefit, then why not me?' Why is doing this, is he completely brainless?

MawtheMerrier

Nobody’s business.
Honestly, there must be better topics for discussion.
How about the toilet brushes again.

I’ll take that as a yes.

My answer, no, never, but agree with PaddyAnne that it should be available on prescription for pain relief.

I'm utterly appalled at Harry's idiotic pronouncements. It's apparent that he is very immature. It's so sad.

Maddy I didn’t understand why Maw thought that discussion of recreational drugs and mental health was so tedious and inconsequential

henetha

I'm utterly appalled at Harry's idiotic pronouncements. It's apparent that he is very immature. It's so sad.

He is. I don’t think that his therapist is doing him any favours,
He’s a terrible advertisement for therapy
He’s being used left, right and centre

Just my honest opinion you understand 😉 but I think somebody is whispering in his ear.

You don’t say!

Would that the Mail would be so "responsible" about alcoholism. If cannabis it were legalised and controlled and separated off from hard drugs - those really kill and damage - and information given as freely about oxycontin and similar addictions that ruin lives.
As I said upthread, its very stupid of Harry to speak out on this, but the reality is that millions of those who can afford the good stuff use it recreationally and it can do less harm than alcohol. People need knowledge and good judgements not shock scandal headlines.

Yes - it's not for me.
No - not beneficial to mental health, but I don't think it causes horrors. I tend to think that just like alcohol use, there are those that will overindulge until it causes issues. Whether they smoked pot or used other drugs or alcohol, I think they are prone to mental health issues or addiction.

Cannabis use here is common and legal, you will see it at most parties (outside), and plenty of people I know use it as pain relief, relaxation, sleeping better.

The consultant psychiatrist, Max Pemberton has a very reasoned and balanced review of Prince Harry's latest 'poor me' interview www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-11823945/Prince-Harrys-words-cause-huge-harm-says-psychiatrist-DR-MAX-PEMBERTON.html.

I recommend people read it.

The Army are also apparently furious with Harry (yet again) for his thoughtless comments re the men not believing in the cause when they were deployed. He does not seem to engage his small brain before speaking.

CanadianGran

Yes - it's not for me.
No - not beneficial to mental health, but I don't think it causes horrors. I tend to think that just like alcohol use, there are those that will overindulge until it causes issues. Whether they smoked pot or used other drugs or alcohol, I think they are prone to mental health issues or addiction.

Cannabis use here is common and legal, you will see it at most parties (outside), and plenty of people I know use it as pain relief, relaxation, sleeping better.

Yes.
Know from family in another country where it's legal.

However, up thread we see there are investigations as to what MH conditions may helped by cannabis derived drugs
ie - decisions on drug use and MH problems are not just related to whether there is an addictive personality as to use
.We dont know yet whether, for example, careful use of cannabis derived drugs are actually safer than some sleeping tablets or other sedative meds, some of which are in themselves extremely addictive.

I agree that the more they do studies, the better informed governments will be, to help regulate the use.

What I do think is harmful is the use by teenagers when their brains are still growing. I have read studies that show heavy use during teen years may inhibit brain development, and cause memory/learning disabilities. And the more loose society is with something, the easier it is for teens to access and and abuse. So I am all for legalization and relocating.

I also believe society has to be careful in these legalizations because the government sees the extra revenue it can generate, and perhaps whitewash any negatives.

Interesting research and not surprising. Age limits on purchase etc taken for granted.

(mind you, my DGD is 9 and has to take Cannabis derived meds for epilepsy and its not a known side effect - but there my knowledge ends.)

Problem then is the same as with alcohol, ie family use in the Holme.

I think Prince Harry may well be an example of how drugs addle the mind, or was he like that anyway?

Probably never top of the class, and what to most of us a pretty weird childhood.

I wouldn’t even accept pain relief during labour, so there is not a chance that I would put an illegal drug in my body. 😂😂

As a counsellor, social worker, teacher, and in my work with homeless people I have seen the devastating effects of illegal drugs, not just on the user, but on whole generations of families. No addict I’ve ever met (I’ve met lots) set out to become dependent, but eventually there can be, and often is, an escalation in the frequency and potency of drug use until the user is sucked into a world of cravings.

If you visit an in-patient psychiatric ward I can almost guarantee that a majority of patients will have had a crisis brought on or exacerbated by illegal drug use. Cannabis use has grown in Scotland since it has effectively been decriminalised and is now the drug most likely to trigger mental illness there. In England there was a 50% rise in cannabis-related hospital admissions in the five years from 2013-2018. In both countries there was an increase in young adults needing in-patient psychiatric treatment.

Studies show that regular cannabis use alters the brain and can lead to depression, anxiety, psychosis, increased risk of suicide and higher rates of hospital admission.

Good message grannyactivist. Pity that Dick can’t read it and take note !