Soup throwing again

Namsnanny

You really do take the biscuit

Are you being goady or deliberately obtuse.

The criminal action is the assault.
Not whether she walked forward backwards with a limp or did the Fandango!

She was hit...on purpose...an assault!

You take from this episode that a hefty twice her size person hit a diminutive 70 year old , because she in your opinion, walking towards her???

Did you see the crowd behind the 70 year old PUSHING her involuntarily forwards?

And I'm making it up? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

This is so preposterous I'm finding educational.

'Bias behaviour in action'.

There must be a psychology course somewhere that can further my understanding.😳

There is no crowd behind her. She deliberately walks forward and begins the attack.
The crowd separate the man from her and deal with him.

Then there's this:

Maybe its the first step in her "annihilation" of women whose views she doesn't like.

twitter.com/brutalnz/status/1641234529955504128?s=46&t=wLTgZGRSDouAAIrAGDKdWw
This takes you o the overview.

You really do take the biscuit

Are you being goady or deliberately obtuse.

The criminal action is the assault.
Not whether she walked forward backwards with a limp or did the Fandango!

She was hit...on purpose...an assault!

You take from this episode that a hefty twice her size person hit a diminutive 70 year old , because she in your opinion, walking towards her???

Did you see the crowd behind the 70 year old PUSHING her involuntarily forwards?

And I'm making it up? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

This is so preposterous I'm finding educational.

'Bias behaviour in action'.

There must be a psychology course somewhere that can further my understanding.😳

volver3

Evidence.

www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/1231r8n/elderly_woman_punched_in_face_by_transrights/

The 70 year old white woman "trying hard not to fall over" is doing no such thing, She's walking purposefully towards the attacker.

That's no excuse, he shouldn't have punched her.

But please realise that you are all making up stories that suit you narrative. How do you compare this with the incident of the senator knocked to the ground by the GC supporter?

Ok if you want the real picture of what happened you need to scroll down through the comments on that video to a twitter account which shows an over view of the scene. The barriers erected by Poppy's team are being dismantled. A girl is pulling out props, the old woman comes out and attacks her, the man and the woman get into a fight and he punches her. They are separated and he is surrounded by the crowd who protect her.
So yes there was violence. The attack was wrong. But the idea that it was unprovoked or that it was approved of by the majority of the demonstrators is wrong. Any crowd can attract violent individuals who want a fight and both the woman and the man were aggressive.

So perhaps stop trying to blame the people whose views you disagree with and look at the whole picture.
There were two incidents of violence in a demonstration of 2000 people.
One was perpetrated by a group of security men on a single person
One was a fight between a man and a woman and although he shouldn't have punched her she was being aggressive.
These do not constitute a violent demonstration

So where am I making it up?

You said she was trying her best not to fall over.

In fact, she is advancing on the attacker.

You don't even know you're doing it.

Well, there's this:

www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/rally-organiser-denies-mystery-lady-in-red-brought-down-thorpe-20230324-p5cv18.html

And no excuses now...was the lady in red involved or was she just an innocent white () bystander, minding her own business?

Btw seeing as you and Glorianny now seem to accept there were two assaults.

Why are you not showing illegal behaviour by others at the rally?

Could it be that there was none?

So where am I making it up?

Redit are you kidding?

Speaking for myself, I am not making anything up

I dont need to explain how a 70 contributed to her own assault.

Victim shaming or what?

Evidence.

www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/1231r8n/elderly_woman_punched_in_face_by_transrights/

The 70 year old white woman "trying hard not to fall over" is doing no such thing, She's walking purposefully towards the attacker.

That's no excuse, he shouldn't have punched her.

But please realise that you are all making up stories that suit you narrative. How do you compare this with the incident of the senator knocked to the ground by the GC supporter?

Look, the only two people being looked at by the police are the two trans activist.

They have footage and so far as I know havent asked any others to come forward and speak to them about their behaviour.

Whether they be men volunteer security (ergo not beefed up bouncers as you seem to be suggesting), Nazi ect.

Only people who are suspected of criminal behaviour are being asked to speak to the police.

You are cherry picking footage to comment on.

As for your description of pouring as opposed to dosing wetting sloshing or any other noun for Eli actions, if it wasnt considered a crime why run away?

Whether you have seen the footage and result of the assault on the 70 y old women, is neither here nor there.
You are not the police. They have.
Yours is just an opinion, and by your own standards not a very fair one at that.

This really is quite nonsensical.

Namsnanny

And again, for the record a trand activist is on video hitting an innocent 70 year old woman who is trying hard not to fall over on the melee.

She was hit hard enough to fracture her skull

How do you sooth your conscience about that assault I wonder?

I haven't seen evidence of this. I have Googled it but nothing came up. If anyone has some evidence I would like to see it.

The tomato juice isn't thrown it is poured over Poppy's head.
It may constitute assault but it wasn't particularly violent.

No comments about the men surrounding Poppy and assaulting quite a few people? I very much doubt if those men are really in favour of women speaking out. Unless of course they share the same fascist views.

And again, for the record a trand activist is on video hitting an innocent 70 year old woman who is trying hard not to fall over on the melee.

She was hit hard enough to fracture her skull

How do you sooth your conscience about that assault I wonder?

So far as I know throwing tomato juice isnt particularly harmful

Words almost fail me.

It's an assault

With legal ramifications.
So not me just saying it.
The full force of the judicial system upholds it as such.

Why did Eli run away to Australia?

Because she doesnt have the right to stop hate speech as you put it.
No one has the legal right to stop any one say anything, with the exception of incitement to violence.

Sheesh!

Oh sorry, I didn’t realise throwing tomato juice is allowed by you. I think throwing anything at people is unacceptable. If I threw something at someone I would expect to be removed from the scene.

Why would there not be men in the entourage? Are you saying the thugs would have backed off if faced by an entourage of females?

However, at last confirmation that violence by TRA’s is unacceptable to you.
Hurray.

For the record I think violence in any form is completely unacceptable, but blowing whistles, sounding Klaxons and banging drums is not violence.
Watch what happens to the person who poured the tomato juice as she is man-handled (and yes it is men) from the site. That's violence. You do wonder why someone like Poppy supposedly standing up for women has quite so many men in her entourage?
As far as women speaking is concerned I don't care if it is a man or a woman spreading hate speech if the people they re targeting choose to silence and stop that hate speech that is their right providing they do so without harming anyone (as far as I know tomato juice isn't particularly harmful)

And to add, the threat of violence, is the first step to silence most of us.

My fear is our information about the world is being filtered through one lens.

It doesnt matter what the subject matter is, there always is an agenda

GN just reflects the wider world.

As you say Callistemon they may not speak for the majority, but they have the attention of our institutions.
Institutions who control our lives.

Callistemon21,
^ Not by most posters Mollygo.

Sorry, I should have said “Though not by most posters.”

And just because some activists shout the loudest and think violence is the way to put women in their perceived place, it does not mean they speak for the majority.

Absolutely, but it’s frightening that they do speak for a minority who endorse the violence by refusing to condemn it.

Somebody said last night that children needed protection from me.

Apparently objecting to the demonisation of drag queens means you are a danger to children.

Anybody like to condemn that?

Mollygo

TRA violence towards women seems to be being praised on here, or at least not condemned.
Nothing new then.

Not by most posters Mollygo.

And just because some activists shout the loudest and think violence is the way to put women in their perceived place, it does not mean they speak for the majority.

Namsnanny

.....'Yes clearly it was a planned strategy by the police'....
For clarification of my post above.

To add it doesnt matter which way you cut it, there were no assaults from any group be they Nazies or Pp supporters.

The only crimes comitted were by Trans activist.

The truth must prevail.

You would think so Namsnanny.
For some, if you hear something you don’t like, or that you consider is wrong, violence is the answer. Says it all really.
I can’t post from previous threads. If I could, I’d cut and paste the evidence that if TRA activists are being violent towards women, the same posters deny that the TRA are the ones in the wrong.
Same old, same old.

.....'Yes clearly it was a planned strategy by the police'....
For clarification of my post above.

To add it doesnt matter which way you cut it, there were no assaults from any group be they Nazies or Pp supporters.

The only crimes comitted were by Trans activist.

The truth must prevail.

Yes physical violence, well they should have walked the other way. Call someone a hooligan and tut tut tut.

They were not hooligans they were demonstrating their right to stop anyone spreading hate speech. Just because you support the ideas being spread doesn't mean others have to listen to them.