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Did they fail me in Dignity, fairness and respect?

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pooohbear2811 Tue 04-Apr-23 13:43:08

let me just say this is not a "feel sorry for me for what happened post" but more the way in which it happened.

Over the last nearly 3 yrs my health has declined. Declined to the extent I have lost my job of nearly 20 yrs and ended up on disability benefits.

In August 2022 I applied for the new Scottish disability (ADP) which according to their own literature is based on "Dignity, fairness and respect in disability benefits". In November I was awarded the mobility part and became entitled to a car. As I have a lot of hospital appointments in various localish hospitals ( all at least 2 buses away, and medically I can't travel by bus) the car seemed a sensible option over the money. So I picked on my new car on 23rd Dec, giving them a large deposit and trading in my old money pit of a car. The peace of mind this offered me a brilliant feeling.

They did not award me the daily living part, which I felt they should have done and they had not taken into account everything on my form, so I was advised to appeal. I was led to believe by the department itself that this appeal only affected the one part I was appealing on.

Anyway come the end of Feb I received a letter from Motability saying they had been informed my car payments had been stopped and I needed to hand back my car as I was no longer eligible for it. This letter said I would have had a letter from ADP to let me know. To say the least, I was very distraught. Nobody had said anything to me, I had not had a letter from ADP telling me my car was being withdrawn.

I contacted ADP to be told " there would be a letter sent out in the next 7 working days and until you receive that letter we cannot discuss the content of it with you". So on one hand I have a letter telling me I need to hand my car back as not eligible and on the other hand nobody would discuss it with me. To say the least I was inconsolable and terrified of being left with no car at all.

I felt getting the letter from Motability telling me I was losing my car was so wrong. Surely "Dignity, fairness and respect" should have informed ME first that I was going to be losing my car? That I should have received the letter first and only after I had been told should Motability have been informed.

It turns out if you appeal one part they look at both parts again.

Again I was told I could appeal this. But not sure I am strong enough to put myself through the stress of another appeal. right now.

How would other people feel about finding out this way and then not being able to discuss it with the people who made the decision until 2 weeks after another dept had been informed?

Whiff Thu 06-Apr-23 06:41:14

I need to apologise incase I have offended anyone here as morons has been pointed out to me it's offensive nowadays.

But I am 64 and do not keep up with all the changes in language . As to morons means idiots.

Who knew sick nowadays means great / good. I thought it mean sick as if you where ill.

But then again some words and phrases people use on other threads I find offensive and hurtful but I do not bother to point them out. As it's a waste of time as I know the people who use them won't change.

The person who pointed this out to me I know her she is kind and a lovely person she did it incase someone picked on me. So thank you for the PM . ❤️

Saggi Thu 06-Apr-23 08:48:52

You’re very lucky to be able to do that Sawsage 2….but many can’t. My mobility is bad due to arthritis ( augmented by 27 years looking after disabled husband ) …. I get no benefits …unless you count council tax reduction for being on my own. When I have hospital app …if my daughter can’t take me ( she’s often away for work) then I need a taxi both ways . That day …I don’t eat!
I’m glad your savings are holding out for you . Mine went looking after my husband… so nothing left in pot!

icanhandthemback Thu 06-Apr-23 10:34:59

Saggi, it may be worth ringing your Council and asking if there is a scheme for those who can't get to the hospital to book a community service like Dial a Ride. Many areas do have them and they are usually cheap or free.

4allweknow Thu 06-Apr-23 15:25:16

Would CAB help with a futher appeal. I totally sympathise and understand what you are going through. There seems to be an awful lot of empty words from the government. I have experienced their palliative care at home system which in reality does not exist. It's a do it yourself system. Everything seems to be just words. Contact a Councillor, MSP, anyone in government and tell them about the abysmal way you are being treated. It may help.

MadeInYorkshire Mon 10-Apr-23 22:49:51

Whiff

I know the PIP decision is on ability. But the moron who did mine decided because I can get into a car I can get into a bath.

What was written on my form was I had to sit on the edge of a car seat and someone lift my legs into the car. Getting out they had to lift my legs out and pull me up. Then get my balance with my walking stick before I can move.

Last time I was in a bath I was 14 my arms collapsed on me my mom had to get me out. So they altered the bathroom so we had a shower.

The list of things I can't do is longer than what I can. But they took no notice.

Hence morons.

When did you last apply?

Please keep trying - do you actually have a bath in your house? If not, it's because you can't get into one!

They're also trying to say if you're capable of driving you must be okay - but for most of us it's the car heling us to be ok!

They have asked people when their limbs are going to grow back; when did their Cerebral Palsy start and when is it going to get better, these so called 'Health Professionals'

Keep trying

Marydoll Mon 10-Apr-23 23:24:59

Its not available here in my GP surgery (Glasgow). You have to get it done privately.

Marydoll Mon 10-Apr-23 23:25:40

Sorry wrong page! 😚

Wyllow3 Mon 10-Apr-23 23:26:15

BTW - you can record/ask for a recording (audio not video) this is essential should an appeal be launch ed and if nothing else may keep the interviewer on their toes. Stuff like asking "when did your cerebral palsy start" - very powerful in an appeal.

Guidelines:
www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/dwp-now-allows-claimants-to-audio-record-pip-assessments-on-their-mobile-phones