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Aveline Wed 05-Apr-23 19:51:50

Hmmmm. I gather she's to be called Queen Camilla despite the late Queen stating that she should be Queen Consort. Albert was only the Prince Consort. Poor old Prince Philip wasnt even that. What's so special about Camilla? I was warming to her but I'm not so sure now. They're taking a risk with the public support.

volver3 Tue 11-Apr-23 12:42:13

Did you look in your crystal ball Anniebach?

Anniebach Tue 11-Apr-23 12:23:18

No to another election, it will be political

Mollygo Tue 11-Apr-23 11:55:35

Elevated? Not by me.
Divine superiority? What a weird idea.

Well put Callistemon21.
I haven't, and I doubt many people have either.
Yet another round of boring electioneering every 4 years is something I'd avoid if possible, so having the continuity of Heads of State in a Constitutional, not Absolute, Monarchy is fine by me.

volver3 Tue 11-Apr-23 11:53:19

Yet another round of boring electioneering every 4 years

But we can have 3 (is it 3?) events in 12 months where London is taken over and we have to put up with some posh folk in a carriage waving at us. And pay for the privilege.

Give me an election any day.

Callistemon21 Tue 11-Apr-23 11:04:56

That's the thing nanna8 - they are simply human beings that we've elevated to the level of some idealistic notion of divine superiority, I don't quite know how to describe it

I haven't, and I doubt many people have either.
Yet another round of boring electioneering every 4 years is something I'd avoid if possible, so having the continuity of Heads of State in a Constitutional, not Absolute, Monarchy is fine by me.

Dickens Tue 11-Apr-23 07:48:08

nanna8

Well they are human and looking back at historical Kings, Queens, Princes etc they are actually quite moderate. Who gives a rat’s arte, anyway ?

That's the thing nanna8 - they are simply human beings that we've elevated to the level of some idealistic notion of divine superiority, I don't quite know how to describe it.

It does seem like an anachronism in the modern age, but I suppose the monarchy is deeply embedded in our history and therefore part of the nation's identity.

But you're right, any study of royalty historically will reveal that the current pattern of behaviour is nothing new. They're all flawed to some degree and suffer the same foibles and peculiarities that the rest of us do. I find it hard to feel any reverence, frankly. Though I would say that the late Queen adhered to what she considered her duty to an extent that has to be admired to some degree. But I doubt we'll see her like again.

nanna8 Tue 11-Apr-23 01:19:07

Well they are human and looking back at historical Kings, Queens, Princes etc they are actually quite moderate. Who gives a rat’s arte, anyway ?

Callistemon21 Mon 10-Apr-23 23:31:28

Anniebach

Thank you Fanny I just googled , William and Rose Hanbury
had dinner in a restaurant on St.Valentine’s Day and he gave her a pearl necklace, witnessed by a waiter.

People believe this 🙄

Oh yes, it was all very secretive and clandestine then!

😂😂😂

Daddima Mon 10-Apr-23 19:55:49

Joseanne

I think there was some snidey comment by Harry - in one of the Netflix programmes - about the Palace covering up William's scandals. Something along the lines of The Palace protecting William?
I don't know whether the affair happened or not, but I can guess what Harry might have been wanting to stir.

There was a story that William had been bullying Harry and Meghan, causing them to leave, and ‘they’ issued a joint statement from William and Harry saying it wasn’t true. Harry said he knew nothing about the statement, and that was the ‘lying to protect my brother’ he was referring to.
But still, you can apply the quote to anything that suits you!

Joseanne Mon 10-Apr-23 17:13:22

4 or 5 years I think, when all the brotherly feuds started. I'm not saying William is lily white, and I also don't think he should have stuck his nose into who Harry chose to marry. But if I remember (??) the affair was found to be a made up story after one of the jokers apologised?

Anniebach Mon 10-Apr-23 17:06:17

Is it news !

GagaJo Mon 10-Apr-23 17:03:29

This has been know about for 2 or 3 years. It's not new news.

icanhandthemback Mon 10-Apr-23 17:01:21

Joseanne

I think there was some snidey comment by Harry - in one of the Netflix programmes - about the Palace covering up William's scandals. Something along the lines of The Palace protecting William?
I don't know whether the affair happened or not, but I can guess what Harry might have been wanting to stir.

He might have also been talking about drunken antics or the like rather than an affair. I doubt William is lily white!

Joseanne Mon 10-Apr-23 16:49:49

I think there was some snidey comment by Harry - in one of the Netflix programmes - about the Palace covering up William's scandals. Something along the lines of The Palace protecting William?
I don't know whether the affair happened or not, but I can guess what Harry might have been wanting to stir.

Mollygo Mon 10-Apr-23 16:23:40

Anniebach

I don’t believe everything I read in the press

Me neither. It has less than 50/50 chance of being true, especially if it’s meant to cause trouble.

Anniebach Mon 10-Apr-23 16:21:07

I don’t believe everything I read in the press

icanhandthemback Mon 10-Apr-23 16:12:31

Anniebach

Thank you Fanny I just googled , William and Rose Hanbury
had dinner in a restaurant on St.Valentine’s Day and he gave her a pearl necklace, witnessed by a waiter.

People believe this 🙄

I'm inclined to disbelieve it but who knows. It is like everything we read in the press from a source!

Anniebach Mon 10-Apr-23 16:04:38

Thank you Fanny I just googled , William and Rose Hanbury
had dinner in a restaurant on St.Valentine’s Day and he gave her a pearl necklace, witnessed by a waiter.

People believe this 🙄

GagaJo Mon 10-Apr-23 16:03:31

Widely known about, despite attempts to stop it getting into the media. Seems the royals can control what Murdoch prints when they really want to.

FannyCornforth Mon 10-Apr-23 16:01:26

Gossip. But there was plenty of it
www.thenews.com.pk/latest/1054916-who-is-rose-hanbury-why-shes-being-linked-to-prince-william

FannyCornforth Mon 10-Apr-23 15:58:21

Anniebach

Who is Rose Hanbury and what affair ?

With William.

Anniebach Mon 10-Apr-23 15:56:57

Who is Rose Hanbury and what affair ?

Kamiso Mon 10-Apr-23 15:49:33

Whitewavemark2

Talking about mistresses - I see it is being suggested that Rose Hanbury’s son is a page boy at the coronation.

The royals certainly do things differently 😄😄

His father’s family have always played a part in coronations so can’t see any reason why his son should be excluded because Giles Coren and Meghan Markle made up malicious lies when they were drunk. Coren made Avery public apology but his career has been damaged severely. He was well and truly Markled!

Kamiso Mon 10-Apr-23 15:43:22

Granmarderby10

LadyHonoriaDedlock what was ghastly about the prospect of Diana being a Queen?
Bearing in mind that if she had lived she would be about 62 now.

Diana would be vulnerable if one of her lovers wives, or children, decided to sell their story to cash in and perhaps gain revenge.

Callistemon21 Mon 10-Apr-23 14:24:24

Aveline

He wasn't banned from marrying her. He went off to sea on a long voyage and while he was away she married Parker Bowles who was quite a catch in those days.

They met when they were quite young but he didn't join the Royal Navy until the following year.
It was three years later, I think, that Camilla met and married Andrew P-B.

The RN doesn't always help the course of true love run smooth.