'Queen Camilla'?

Technically Queen Camilia is queen consort, as she is married to the king, not the sovereign herself.

The only queens in British history to rule are in Scotland Mary Stewart, better known as Mary, Queen of Scots, to distinguish her from her older second or third cousin Mary Tudor of England, the same Mary Tudor, her half-sister, Elizabeth, another Mary Stewart, who shared the throne with her husband William of Orange, Queen Anne, Queen Victoria and Queen Elizabeth II.

All of the other women in British history accorded the title of queen were married to kings and therefore if we want to be fussy, queen consorts, but all of them were referred to both by the general public, diplomats, British and foreign royality and newspapers as Queen followed by their given name, or rather the one of the string most of them had that they chose to use.

To me it seems petty in the extreme to insist on referring to Queen Camilla as the Queen consort.

When the late Queen said Camilla should be the queen consort, I hope and trust she meant she should be accorded the rightful title (Queen) generally used of the spouse of a King and not still be referred to as the Duchess of Cornwall.

#Poppsbaggie. Socialist twaddle. We haven't GIVEN billions to greedy, grasping multimillionaires. They may well have evaded paying tax through loopholes. Different matter.
Better an apolitical figure head than a political appointee though personally I'm ambivalent about the monarchy.

I'm with you on this. They all made mistakes, either forced on them or through ignorance. So why the b1tchy comments by some? Charles has stayed with Camilla, she's taken care of him...she's quietly doing "the job." Let's judge them by future performance. As for "Queen"....the title goes with the job.

I was walking round a large shopping centre in France today and there were posters up to celebrate the coronation, like in bookshops and in travel agents. The titles were very much, Their majesties^, Their crowning^, King and Queen. It seems they come as a package. I think that if the rest of the world is referring to them as such, (though of course the rest of the world might not understand the background), then most people in the UK will get used to using those titles pretty quickly.

Who cares? It's high time we got rid of the lot of them In a country where people are struggling to pay their bills and put food on the table, we give millions of taxpayers money to these grasping multi-billionaires. I fail to see a good reason why this should be so.

I have always been a royalist but I am having a definite rethink.

They'll be gutted when they find out!

Diana, who hated the countryside, put on wellies and walks across a ploughed field to talk to Charles.

Diana , who had no problem with the press following her to work everyday when her relationship with Charles was made
public.

Shy Di !

Hermother

^No one begrudges their marriage.^

Oh I think some on here do. Very much so.

Nope, I just don't see she is the sort of person I want to see as Queen. Nor Charles really. I have always been a royalist but I am having a definite rethink.

When I first got married, by convention, I was supposed to be known as Mrs Molly Go, because my MIL was the real Mrs Go.
My MIL told me I was Mrs Go as soon as I married her son, and not to be silly!

No one begrudges their marriage.

Oh I think some on here do. Very much so.

Really wish ppl would do our history on kings and queens one she has earned her place by marrying our king and glad to see you were all regular at having a brew and chat with our late queen for you all to know what she wanted. I don’t have a problem with Camille being our queen.

Galaxy

The royalists tend to talk about them in a way I wouldnt talk about my worst enemy.

I agree. The royalists are supposed to like royalty aren't they?
Why be so vile, especially about a woman who died young over twenty years ago.

Damaged by the late Queen and Prince of Edinburgh?

Tattooedfidelma

I’m stunned at how nasty this thread has got. This is why I rarely take part. I’m not a fan of the royals but Charles and Camilla seem like nice people who are doing their best. I know many people who have affairs and remarry after divorce and they aren’t condemned for years afterwards.

I don't think anyone is condemning them for being married. or even for her being Queen Consort.

They set the rules, after all. No divorcees. So if they make the rules, they should stick to them.

No one begrudges their marriage.

The royalists tend to talk about them in a way I wouldnt talk about my worst enemy.

Diana pushed Raine down the stairs

Has anybody mentioned yet how vile Diana was to ber stepmother, Raine Spencer?

After their father died Raine was told by Charles Spencer, who is a nasty piece of work in his own right, told Raine to get out of the family pile. Diana stood and watched her packing her belongings into suitcases. Then she told Raine that the suitcases weren't hers and she wasn't having them. She emptied the suitcases on the floor and then she and Charles stuffed Raine's clothes and other belongings into bin bags and threw them down the stairs.

"Poor, innocent, shy Diana" was as much an act as bumbling, dishevelled, Boris Johnson and just as calculated to deceive.

I’m stunned at how nasty this thread has got. This is why I rarely take part. I’m not a fan of the royals but Charles and Camilla seem like nice people who are doing their best. I know many people who have affairs and remarry after divorce and they aren’t condemned for years afterwards.

enabenn

In the greater scheme of things, what difference does it make. They are all very privileged people and the younger generation are really not interested in them. It seems that older people are the ones who care. There are a lot of out of date customs that they should get rid of. Camilla seems a lot more humble and I think she should be respected for that.

I don’t think it’s true that the younger generation isn’t interested, there are more Royal threads on Mumsnet than there are on here, obsessing about every detail - they even have a running clothes they wear thread every day.

In the greater scheme of things, what difference does it make. They are all very privileged people and the younger generation are really not interested in them. It seems that older people are the ones who care. There are a lot of out of date customs that they should get rid of. Camilla seems a lot more humble and I think she should be respected for that.

When I wore my wedding dress a colleague said, that's very you galaxy, stylish with just a hint of trollop.

Is a tart worse than a trollop?

Asking for a friend.

sazz1

Personally I'm in favour of a republic as Royalty has no place in 2023.
But Charles took an innocent naive girl and married her solely for the purpose of producing heirs. A breeding machine
And all the time he was seeing Camilla a married woman.
I think they are both disgusting people and neither are fit to rule our country, if we really need a king and queen anyway.
I know many people have affairs but not many take a wife just to breed. He even told Diana he didn't love her the day before the wedding. And Camilla didn't walk away when he married. She's nothing but a married man's tart.

I agree with yo, well said

Why didn’t the tabloids print of the alleged relationship between Charles and Camilla ?

Still no mention here of Dale Tryon yet the tabloids had much to say

Who cares really? They are all just ultra-priveleged twits.