'Queen Camilla'?

TG it’s the Earl Marshal’s or Lord Chamberlain’s office (or whoever) who proclaims the new monarch and announces what the Consort will be known as and not Gransnet
It might be a long drawn-out process!

However it does seem to have called a (temporary) halt to wittering on about Harry and Meghan !

Callistemon21

It really isn't going to make a jot of difference to any of our lives 🙂

🤴👸

This, in a nutshell.

icanhandthemback I agree with you. I was damning with faint praise.

Many, if not the majority of the so-called Aristocratic Families descend from the fourteen distaff children of King Charles 11 (The Merry Monarch!). Both Diana and Camilla have ancestory from there.

Camilla's great grandmother was Mistress to Edward Vll - so does that make her 'artistrocat' enough for you????

volver3

Mark the day in your calendars - I agree with Anniebach!

Charles did not say he wanted to be Camilla's tampon. Gird your loins before you read the rest of this ....

He said he wanted to live inside her trousers but God Forbid, he'd probably end up being flushed away like a .... well you get the gist.

Can you tell I’m doing no work today?

CAMILLA: Mmm, so do I. I need you all the week. All the time.

CHARLES: Oh, God. I'll just live inside your trousers or something. It would be much easier!

CAMILLA (laughing): What are you going to turn into, a pair of knickers? (Both laugh). Oh, you're going to come back as a pair of knickers.

CHARLES: Or, God forbid, a Tampax. Just my luck! (Laughs)

CAMILLA: You are a complete idiot! (Laughs) Oh, what a wonderful idea.

CHARLES: My luck to be chucked down a lavatory and go on and on forever swirling round on the top, never going down.

CAMILLA (laughing): Oh darling!

CHARLES: Until the next one comes through.

Foxygloves

^The other queens-by-marriage, Alexandra, Mary, and the Queen Mother, were all aristocrats in their own right,^

Not true
Alexandra, Mary, Charlotte, Caroline etc were European royalty. The Queen Mum was Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon it is true, but you can’t pick and choose because you think Kate is “more Queen-like” or whatever

Are royals not aristocrats? I don’t make a distinction between the two.

As for Catherine being more “queen- like” than Camilla, that is just my personal impression.

Why can't people accept that this is just how it works (as foxy says)...

“Queen Camilla” is the appropriate title to set against “King Charles”. All former Queen Consorts as far as I know have been known as “Queen” plus their first name.’

My opinion, and it’s only that, is that Camilla supports Charles to the hilt and makes him a better King that he would otherwise have been.
As for all the fanatic royalists, on here and other places, why are you disrespectful in not using their “proper” titles, eg Kate, which the PoW has said she is never called, instead of the Princess of Wales? Maybe it makes you think you know them personally? We none of us know them.

Hermother

I am "more Queen-like” than any of you! You serfs may address me as Your Royal Majesty Queen Her". Your welcome. 👑

I'm not curtseying for you or anyone, sorry.

It's me knees, luv.

I am "more Queen-like” than any of you! You serfs may address me as Your Royal Majesty Queen Her". Your welcome. 👑

The other queens-by-marriage, Alexandra, Mary, and the Queen Mother, were all aristocrats in their own right,

Not true
Alexandra, Mary, Charlotte, Caroline etc were European royalty. The Queen Mum was Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon it is true, but you can’t pick and choose because you think Kate is “more Queen-like” or whatever

Witzend

Nicegranny

I couldn’t agree more Gagajo.
The remark that was made by him years ago wishing he was Camillas tampon is pretty disgusting.

Considerably more disgusting, to me, was that such a private message was hacked and made public by the gutter press.

As for Queen Camilla, I have no objection at all, but it’s still going to be an awful long time before anyone mentioning ‘the Queen’ will not immediately make me think of Elizabeth R. It’s hard to break the associations of over 70 years!

Considerably more disgusting, to me, was that such a private message was hacked and made public by the gutter press.

Exactly this.

And I'm sure there are other things said and done by various family members behind the closed doors of the RF that might equally shock, if truth be known. Fortunately they are allowed a certain amount of privacy so we don't get to hear all that goes on.

Seriously though, if you look at how Royalty has behaved down through the ages, it is quite clear that they are simply ordinary human beings with all the faults and frailties of the species. But we insist on them being on a pedestal, put them on thrones so that we can bow and curtsey to them, to satisfy some collective patriotic need, and then take it as a personal insult when they don't behave the way we think they should.

When I watch Kate and William, impeccable manners, beautifully turned out, gracious, smiling... I'm almost on edge waiting for them to make a wrong-turn, saying or doing something that will result in a backlash from the public. I think the strain of 'keeping up appearances' must be enormous, with the media focusing on their every move, expression. their dress, their children.

IMO Charles' marriage to Diana was a fiasco from beginning to end, caused by the protocol that governs the way the RF have to live in order to maintain the notion that they are an exalted, superior breed of human, fit to 'rule' over the rest of us mere mortals.

I'm largely on the Republican side anyway, so don't care about whether Camilla is Queen or not-Queen. I think when the late Queen died, it was the end of an era, because no-one is ever going to follow in her footsteps.

Franbern

Grandma70s

The other queens-by-marriage, Alexandra, Mary, and the Queen Mother, were all aristocrats in their own right, Camilla isn’t. Just a point. Of course, Princess Catherine isn’t either, but she seems more queen-like than Camilla to me.

Aristocrats ???? Do you mean they were born into families that had cheated and stolen their fortunes or had been born on the distaff side????

So daft to me this whole thing, Mrs Windsor is what Camilla is or she could keep her single name.

In what way does all these silly titles effect any of us in any way in our live?

I’m sure you know what is meant by aristocrats, however you choose to describe them. And like it or not, titles are used in this country. Of course they don’t affect us, but they exist.

Was Diana a virgin ?

Parsley3

I can't take the king seriously while people are still debating whether he did or did not say that he wanted to be a feminine hygiene product.
Queen Camilla, now, you have to admire her tenacity. She stood her ground while Charles went through the farce of having to marry a virgin and produce the heir and the spare. Now she has the last laugh as queen of us all. What a trouper.

She stood her ground! Wow, that's all you've got to do to get the last laugh. Assist in ruining a marriage, put 2 innocent boys through the trauma and hang in tightly until you get what you want. The idea that the sort of pain inflicted on innocent children (who are obviously damaged by it judging by a certain book) is revolting to me and in no way makes anybody a trouper.

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I wish the whole farce would go away to be honest. As an earlier post commented, Camilla is a mistress who has risen up the hierarchy and joined the rest of the entitled crew who adorn the balcony. I had respect for the late Queen, she knew how to behave but when I see Camilla the vision of Charles wanting to be her Tampax will not leave me! At a time when most people are struggling to survive the financial crisis we have to observe their extravagant and polluting lifestyles.

In reality it seems to me, the royal family is still rather misogynistic. At least they’ve done away with the succession rules so that boys don’t jump ahead of girls in the line of succession any longer, but with regard to the crown, a king can have a queen at his side, but a queen can’t have a king. This is apparently because a king outranks a queen I think, so Elizabeth couldn’t have Philip as her king as he would outrank her. He had to remain a prince which he was in his own right, and he was made Duke of Edinburgh. In the same way we cannot apparently have a Duchess in her own right, it’s always tagged on to the Duke title. Anne was not made a Duchess upon her marriage and her husband refused a title and so she remained a princess but wasn’t a duchess. It’s all about ranking; males outrank females.
I think I’ve got it right, but if anyone knows better, please tell.

Grandma70s

The other queens-by-marriage, Alexandra, Mary, and the Queen Mother, were all aristocrats in their own right, Camilla isn’t. Just a point. Of course, Princess Catherine isn’t either, but she seems more queen-like than Camilla to me.

Aristocrats ???? Do you mean they were born into families that had cheated and stolen their fortunes or had been born on the distaff side????

So daft to me this whole thing, Mrs Windsor is what Camilla is or she could keep her single name.

In what way does all these silly titles effect any of us in any way in our live?

Foxygloves

Stating facts is neither indicating support or the lack of it, but what a change to start the day with a smile.

Like it or not, and some clearly don't, but it is what it is

😀 here's another smile

Thank you volver

Mark the day in your calendars - I agree with Anniebach!

Charles did not say he wanted to be Camilla's tampon. Gird your loins before you read the rest of this ....

He said he wanted to live inside her trousers but God Forbid, he'd probably end up being flushed away like a .... well you get the gist.

She knew what she wanted 50 years ago, she's got it with all her tenacity and the pressure it entails. Let's wait and see how she performs.
I think everyone knew the title would be changed to Queen if we admit it, the Royals do what they want.
What acts to follow, the late Queen and her mother.

Nicegranny

I couldn’t agree more Gagajo.
The remark that was made by him years ago wishing he was Camillas tampon is pretty disgusting.

Considerably more disgusting, to me, was that such a private message was hacked and made public by the gutter press.

As for Queen Camilla, I have no objection at all, but it’s still going to be an awful long time before anyone mentioning ‘the Queen’ will not immediately make me think of Elizabeth R. It’s hard to break the associations of over 70 years!

The whole thing is an (expensive) pantomime IMHO.
Camilla is, of course, automatically called Queen being married to a King. I just wish they’d pay for it all out of their vast wealth especially at the moment when many individuals and, indeed, the country are really struggling