Headline today ‘Losing weight may hasten death’

Which was my point.

Lilyflower

Apparently the study was somewhat misreported as the study was about ‘involuntary’ loss of weight, not weight lost through diets. Since sudden, unexpected weight loss usually happens due to an underlying cause such as cancer then the weight loss is a symptom not the cause of death in the sufferers.

Diet away, ladies, staying slim, healthy and active is the only way to stave off the Bad Stuff.

Exactly!

It was the illness behind the weight loss that killed people, not that they had lost weight..

Yes, many old people lose weight in their latter years, but it can be for a variety of reasons - poorly fitting teeth, lack of appetite, reduced physical capacity for standing and cooking, isolation or indeed poor health.

But loosing weight this way can, and often does lead to the person concerned being undernourished and with an impaired immuns system that does increase their chances of getting some illnesses because they are malnourished or because they haven't the reserves to fight an infection, for example, if they get one.

In cancer, weight loss can happen in the last months before death and is a sign that the cancer is reaching the terminal stage.

appetite naturally decreases with age, hence the importance of eating nutrient dense foods as we get older, in tandem with smaller appetite. I take no notice at all of bmi, I have muscles, in my legs and arms and they account for higher bmi

I don`t like the words slimmers and slimming. The fat people who are fat from too many pies etc know who they are and also know that this sort of fat is bad. Cutting out pies is sensible and will help to remove the bad excess body fat, provided there is enough activity to use up stored fat, people know that.

Articles like that in the op, click bait, should be targeted at the food industry which continues to make addictive, unhealthy products which are liable to shorten life

Poorly worded “May indicate ….” rather than “hastening” which implies cause and effect.
Yes, many old people lose weight in their latter years, but it can be for a variety of reasons - poorly fitting teeth, lack of appetite, reduced physical capacity for standing and cooking, isolation or indeed poor health.
Definitely not necessarily a case though of post hoc ergo propter hoc

Apparently the study was somewhat misreported as the study was about ‘involuntary’ loss of weight, not weight lost through diets. Since sudden, unexpected weight loss usually happens due to an underlying cause such as cancer then the weight loss is a symptom not the cause of death in the sufferers.

Diet away, ladies, staying slim, healthy and active is the only way to stave off the Bad Stuff.

I'm also in the middle of low so will koko.

Whitewavemark2

MiniMoon

passthechocolates, have a look at the smart BMI calculator. There is a special category for seniors. It explains how it's calculations differ from the regular BMI scale.
If its any help, my wise Granny used to say that when a woman reaches a certain age, she needs a bit of weight about her.
Here is a link to the smart BMI site.

I’m bang in the middle or Low 😮. There I have been beating myself up for being overweight.

I shall go to bed with a song in my heart😄🙂.

Oh glory.

You could also go to bed with a plate of buttered toast Whitewavemark2 😃

MiniMoon

*passthechocolates*, have a look at the smart BMI calculator. There is a special category for seniors. It explains how it's calculations differ from the regular BMI scale.
If its any help, my wise Granny used to say that when a woman reaches a certain age, she needs a bit of weight about her.
Here is a link to the smart BMI site.

I always liked your Granny 😁

Its a very bad article. it doesn't give relevant information about what a healthy BMI should be as well as not giving the "Causes of weight loss" information.

What about the dangers of obesity, which are many!

wiki

"Obesity significantly increases your risk of developing life-threatening conditions, such as heart disease, stroke, high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes and some forms of cancer."

Writing something about being overweight seems to be a popular choice if they can’t think of anything else!

I’ve been sent on a load of groups and courses about healthy eating due to pre-diabetes, the aim now seems to be small changes to behaviour which result in weight loss over a long time. It’s very hard to believe this will make any difference when nothing long-term has worked before. So they might as well write articles saying losing weight will kill me, it’s not going to affect me anyway! FWIW, I’m pretty sure they must mean rapid, intentional weight loss is bad for you - what used to be called crash dieting.

Sounds a bit bonkers but every time I visit the loo I do 10 sit/stands and I stand on one leg when I clean my teeth switching leg half way through.
Not bonkers at all Foxie48! I sometimes remember to do sit/stands but such a good idea to do it in the loo! And standing on one leg is supposed to be brilliant for your balance; mine has got worse over the years even though I'm a dancer! Thanks for the tip

Here it is explained with less schlock: edition.cnn.com/2019/10/17/health/weight-gain-loss-premature-death/index.html

MiniMoon

*passthechocolates*, have a look at the smart BMI calculator. There is a special category for seniors. It explains how it's calculations differ from the regular BMI scale.
If its any help, my wise Granny used to say that when a woman reaches a certain age, she needs a bit of weight about her.
Here is a link to the smart BMI site.

I’m bang in the middle or Low 😮. There I have been beating myself up for being overweight.

I shall go to bed with a song in my heart😄🙂.

Oh glory.

In late heart failure, weight just plummets. unintentionally. Also in established cancer ~& uncontrolled diabetes. But I don't recall seeing that modest planned weight loss affects the heart at any age. Especially if it's a combination of intentional weight loss & increased activity & healthy eating. That's still promoted by the NHS for all age groups. Without seeing where they got these stats from (is unintentional weight loss included?) there's not a lot I can learn from this.

Just did this via your link minimoon
Very reassuring…🤗

FannyCornforth

Well, my longevity is now guaranteed

And mine 😂😂😂😂😂

Seriously my BMI is far too high, I’ve lost a stone and a half since October and I feel so much better Yes the heart is a muscle but muscle loss can be combatted by use of protein and exercise, if, like me, you’re way overweight weight loss can only benefit your body and mind provided it’s done sensibly and healthily

Meant to add, I use weights also.

Exercising is key to maintaining muscle. I would think dieting and exercise go hand in hand, and if done sensibly will give a good outcome.

Passthechocolates (great name considering the topic). I would think it might be pointing to those who lose large amounts of weight in a very short time. In other words, 'extreme dieting'. It's always been said that the healthiest way is to aim for no more than 2lbs per week. You sometimes see adverts saying "I took these tablets and lot 15lbs in one week". You don't know what it's doing to your system.

Daily Mail again!
The little i paper has a story today about sudden weight loss in patients with late stage cancer. Sobering.

My weight is officially fine for my height, but I know that I have rather too much fat on me. I’m not going to give up eating things I enjoy, though, even if they are fattening. I’m 83 and intend to enjoy what life I have left, and that includes eating nice food. Nobody ever reaches their deathbed wishing they hadn’t eaten so many sweet things. At least, I don’t think so.

I lost 15 kilos over three months which sent the practice nurse into panic mode, she assumed I must have some dreadful disease and sent me for lots of tests. My husband had just died and I was grieving.
I have just done the BMI test and it puts me in the middle of the chart where I am considered the correct weight for my height and age.

Thank you MiniMoon. My results tell me I’m at my ideal weight and don’t need to lose the stone I’ve gained since taking prescribed steroids.

Good grief!! Fat people die ….thin people die …. guess what , we all die!! Wh knew?!🤔