The Daily Mail

Everything seems more downmarket now Callistemon.
I remember in the 90s The Express was a really good paper, I can’t remember why / how it happened, but around ‘98 it suddenly went absolutely dreadful

Littleannie

Surely enough is enough. I read and enjoy the Mail. It's my choice. I wouldn't dream of criticising what other people choose to read.
And no, I am not an idiot. I consider myself to be well educated. I held a senior post in the Civil Service until retirement. I am now a freelance crossword compiler, having had over 600 puzzles published.

I don’t understand why well educated people read it Littleannie, when the quality of journalism is well known as unreliable and it frequently tells lies. It has to be terrible to be badged by Microsoft. If people want to read more reliable right wing press they are better served by the Times.

www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jan/23/dont-trust-daily-mail-website-microsoft-browser-warns-users

nanna8

More and more I would love to read the thing. If it rouses that much anger it is doing what newspapers do, isn’t it ? I am sure they would’ve hated people to be lukewarm or neutral about it. Success in my book.

It's online nanna8.

Worth a look

Today's headline seems to be about nail polish that will make you go blind, and a discussion about whether Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey are really brothers.

Important stuff.

volver3

nanna8

More and more I would love to read the thing. If it rouses that much anger it is doing what newspapers do, isn’t it ? I am sure they would’ve hated people to be lukewarm or neutral about it. Success in my book.

It's online nanna8.

Worth a look

Today's headline seems to be about nail polish that will make you go blind, and a discussion about whether Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey are really brothers.

Important stuff.

The Harrelson/McConaughey story was an item on breakfast news.

SueEH

I buy it the Saturday Mail for my dad and make sure that I say that loudly to anyone within earshot. He reads it then quotes things back to me as gospel. It’s mostly drivel.

I always laugh when people announce to anyone within earshot that they never:

Watch TV soaps
Ditto Daytime telly and reality TV
Do the Lottery
Eat junk food
and most sinful of all…Read the Daily Mail!
😮😮😮

Curiously though they are often experts on the subjects. 😂

I don't do any of those things.

Maybe because being an "expert" in them means I know not to do them?

(actually my diet could be better and I like Race Across the World...)

We read The Times in paper form every day. Surprisingly it is not far right, I wouldn't read it if it was . Gave up on The Guardian when it got ridiculous , would not read the Telegraph or The Mail however I do find that the I is very good.

Littleannie

Surely enough is enough. I read and enjoy the Mail. It's my choice. I wouldn't dream of criticising what other people choose to read.
And no, I am not an idiot. I consider myself to be well educated. I held a senior post in the Civil Service until retirement. I am now a freelance crossword compiler, having had over 600 puzzles published.

Completely agree Littleannie! I wouldn’t dream of telling anybody on here what to read. It’s their business. It’s just another form of snobbery. Like people who look down their noses at those who watch Coronation Street. It’s just light entertainment and millions have loved it for decades and that’s why actors like Ian McKellan, Maureen Lipman, Timothy West, Nigel Havers, Patricia Routledge and many more, all jumped at the chance to be in it. It has also set several young actors on the path to greater things - Sarah Lancashire, Suranne Jones, Joanne Froggatt etc.

Loving your current job! One of the best days I ever spent was on a one day course about crossword solving, anagrams, cryptic clues etc. It was brilliant.

Like you, I am well educated and have worked in education for most of that but also in advertising, managerial and have filled in with fun things like composing greetings for birthday cards, exam marking, running our own holiday lets, invigilating and running a craft group.

But hey, as I sometimes read the DM, I am apparently doomed! 🤣

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Oh Dear.

Touchy, touchy.

I agree with you Littleannie and Primrose I don't know why those who don't ever read the DM care so much about those who do.

So, in case anybody missed the inoffensive bit.

Read what you like.

Nobody's stopping you.

Own it, though.

That's what posters are doing volver.

Most of my family and friends read The Guardian. I read parts of a selection of papers online, but I admit the Daily Mail is low on my list. I think only reading one paper is too limiting. Certainly I can often predict what my Guardian-reading friends are going to think and say. That’s not good.

It is good *Grandma70s".

It is always good to read a broad range of the media - covering right and left and not forgetting where most sensible people are - in the middle.

Compared with the fact-lite left wing drumbeat of the Guardian and BBC,

I recommend everyone reads widely, checks facts and sources and subjects their reading to clear, reasoned thought.

I'm afraid that I'm finding it really difficult to reconcile these two statements in Lilyflower's post..

I'm just guessing, as I'm not a regular reader of The Guardian or The Daily Mail (although I do look at both online from time to time and very much appreciate the free access).

However I do suspect that fact-checkers would find many more suspect reports in The Daily Mail than in The Guardian.

Try looking at Wikipaedia.

I stopped peeking at the Daily Mail when I realised it never 'celebrated' the achievements of women but only appeared to be promoting their bodies. Making seemingly innocuous headlines about (for example) Katie Price, or Meghan you-kno-who, knowing full well it would generate pages of adverse comments on them and the way they look.

"Katie stuns with new hair-do"... making sure that the most overwhelming focal point of the photo' is her massive boobs.

I do not think the DM is woman-friendly.

As for the BBC, it is just laughable to describe its political stance as "left wing drumbeat"

For goodness sake, the once independent BBC has been the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation since 2015.

I read the Mail when I want to point and laugh at what now constitutes “journalism”. Wouldn’t kill brain cells by actually looking to it as a reputable source of current events. It’s a right-winged trash rag. I’d never ingest any of that bile, so I see no harm in looking for the sake of amusement.

I’d never ingest any of that bile, so I see no harm in looking for the sake of amusement.

😂😂😂😂

varian

As for the BBC, it is just laughable to describe its political stance as "left wing drumbeat"

For goodness sake, the once independent BBC has been the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation since 2015.

I keep reading on social media sites comments about this current "leftie" government...

I think it has something to do with the furlough scheme during the pandemic, and more recently increasing benefit payments because, obviously, everyone in receipt of a benefit is a lazy scrounger who's "never done a day's work in their life". Oh, and help-for-households because if you can't make ends meet on your current wages you should take on multiple ZH contract jobs until you can... and if you have to juggle that with childcare, then you should of (sic) thought about that when you decided to have kids - or the more popular "if you can't afford kids, don't have them".

I don't know why, but I'm still shocked at the level of vitriol that some on the Right spew towards anyone who doesn't hold their world-view. And that's not a criticism of the traditional Conservative voter - I have many such as friends and acquaintances and none of them appear to think like that. It's the 'new' Right - hard-nosed, rancorous, and very often male. The '30p-Lee-Brigade' my partner calls them.

As for the BBC, well it ain't what it used to be, but having said that I've been enjoying the Reith Lectures on R4 and there are still some worthwhile programmes However it's had its wisdom teeth pulled a bit. But, look at the way it's been restructured, and who by and why.

Well, thank you Primrose and Smileless for your kind comments.
I see varian is saying we are not 'sensible' as we are not in the middle. And volver obviously thinks she has the monopoly on good taste.
Why should a group of people I don't know and will never meet, dictate what I should or should not read. They probably don't approve of what I watch or listen to either.
I DON'T CARE.
I am not going to comment further. Anyway, I haven't finished reading today's Mail yet.

I don't have good taste, let alone a monopoly on it. Goodness, you should see my home decor.

Anyway...

Like I said before, read what you like, knock yourself out.

YOU DONT CARE?

Who'd of guessed?

Have guessed Volver. Not of guessed.