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Feeling anxious about husband being misunderstood in the world now controlled by the wokeness police,!!

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sankev Thu 27-Apr-23 22:55:42

I don’t remember there ever being such a word as ‘woke ‘ when I was a child, now it seems to be used in every sentence (maybe a slight exaggeration) but I am truly sick of it!
My DH has had several strokes and other health problems, and though recovering well he often comes out with things that we now consider inappropriate. Calling a receptionist ‘darling’ ( locally used frequently by older generation) or similar such things. Nothing too terrible but he is beginning to get some disapproving responses. Thankfully nothing too serious but hopefully you get the gist.
Problem is I’m beginning to get anxious when we are out and find myself correcting him. This is both unfair on him and though I do it respectfully it feels as though I’m being derogatory.
Does anyone else have similar issues or am I just being overly sensitive? I probably haven’t explained myself very clearly but hopefully you get the idea. He’s a lovely gentleman and very friendly and I feel so sorry for him when people don’t react the way he expects.

Hithere Fri 28-Apr-23 15:55:30

Some loose screws found in aisle 5- please come to customer service if you are missing any

Blondiescot Fri 28-Apr-23 15:54:42

When people start using 'woke' as an insult, you know it's time to bow out...

Foxygloves Fri 28-Apr-23 15:53:17

winkwink

volver3 Fri 28-Apr-23 15:52:36

Oh, this is going well...

Foxygloves Fri 28-Apr-23 15:52:26

It starts with "darling", next thing you know they are wolf whistling you and putting your hand on their crotch

Fife must have changed a bit since my day confused.

Nicenanny3 Fri 28-Apr-23 15:51:40

15:47Foxygloves

Hithere

Cool with me!

Oh my apologies. Are you a guy?

Haha perhaps he might take offence if another guy called him darling 😂 Although some might like it.

volver3 Fri 28-Apr-23 15:50:39

Nicenanny3

23:05Hithere

Your rights cannot infringe mine, empathy or not

Being called "darling" is very much a nono

Don't be riddiculous it's wouldn't bother me it someone called me darling or wolf whistled at me. Pc and Woke has taken over from common sense, would anyone even want to call you darling or me for that matter 😅

See this is what happens.

It starts with "darling", next thing you know they are wolf whistling you and putting your hand on their crotch.

Oh, and telling you that you're not worth calling "darling" anyway.

Foxygloves Fri 28-Apr-23 15:50:26

And if in fact female @ Hithere , is it time we renamed the musical “Guys and Dolls” ?
What would you suggest
“Guys and Guys” ?

Foxygloves Fri 28-Apr-23 15:47:14

Hithere

Cool with me!

Oh my apologies. Are you a guy?

Nicenanny3 Fri 28-Apr-23 15:47:02

23:05Hithere

Your rights cannot infringe mine, empathy or not

Being called "darling" is very much a nono

Don't be riddiculous it's wouldn't bother me it someone called me darling or wolf whistled at me. Pc and Woke has taken over from common sense, would anyone even want to call you darling or me for that matter 😅

Foxygloves Fri 28-Apr-23 15:46:38

I have never heard “Sir” or “Ma’am” used in a less respectful way than by the police in the US.
And how is that “gender neutral” - any more or less than “Guys, sister , bro “ etc
No you’re losing your argument Hithere.
And as for calling somebody “Timmy’s Mum” or whatever - we are not in kindergarten any more!

volver3 Fri 28-Apr-23 15:43:01

if the person being called darling is not aware that an elderly man may have always called women darling, then they need to be more aware/woke.

If the elderly man had always called people of colour ni**ers, would that make it OK to keep doing that?

Its not that he has always done it, its that his "filter" may have gone. That's what other people need to be aware of.

Hithere Fri 28-Apr-23 15:41:33

Cool with me!

BlueBelle Fri 28-Apr-23 15:38:46

It is respect - how to be addressed in a manner that has no indication of my gender
So ‘guys’ will really fit it for you then Hithere 😃

OurKid1 Fri 28-Apr-23 15:30:45

If you substitute the word "aware" for woke, then the onus is on both parties to be aware of the other's feelings. In this case, if the person being called darling is not aware that an elderly man may have always called women darling, then they need to be more aware/woke. Works both ways.

62Granny Fri 28-Apr-23 15:18:37

I know exactly what you mean as my DH has also had a stroke and sometimes their filter goes. Would he mind wearing a Lanyard, with either the stroke association of the Sunflower emblem on for hidden disabilities, they were being giving the free in some supermarkets or you can buy them from Amazon, does he mind you correcting him gently? Mine does sometimes . Don't forget the stroke has killed some of the brain cells and it can stop them remembering not to say something, or being overly friendly , we know someone like this who comes out with some near the knuckle lines , sometimes my DH comes across as being disinterested when people are saying something. I sometimes give him a gentle reminder before we go somewhere about making sure he listens and engages his brain. But I know it can be hard for them.

Primrose53 Fri 28-Apr-23 15:16:21

We used to have a delivery driver from Stoke on Trent and he always said “Hi shugs.” I assume he meant “sugar”.

PerkyPiggy Fri 28-Apr-23 15:02:21

The world can be an ugly place so I welcome anyone who wants to call me Darling, Love, Hun or even Mate. Likewise I often call other people the same. I see no harm in it and will continue to do so. To the OP. Please don't worry about your husband. He sounds lovely and we need people like him in society.

Callistemon21 Fri 28-Apr-23 15:01:04

Blondiescot

Yes, Callistemon21, I understand that. I'm not easily offended in the least, and the only times words like 'dear' or 'darling' would raise my hackles would be when they were clearly being used in a patronising or condescending way. And then I would speak up - as I have done in the past.

Yes, I think we can tell a sleaze-ball by now
Or a misogynist

NanaDana Fri 28-Apr-23 14:55:51

Taking offense where none is intended should perhaps be a trigger for some self-reflection...

Blondiescot Fri 28-Apr-23 14:51:21

Yes, Callistemon21, I understand that. I'm not easily offended in the least, and the only times words like 'dear' or 'darling' would raise my hackles would be when they were clearly being used in a patronising or condescending way. And then I would speak up - as I have done in the past.

Callistemon21 Fri 28-Apr-23 14:50:10

Hithere

I think tolerance for people to refuse to adjust and admit the changes are needed are the issue, not the empathy for others

Who lacks empathy then?

You do, I'm sorry to say.

www.stroke.org.uk/effects-of-stroke/changes-to-behaviour

Callistemon21 Fri 28-Apr-23 14:47:40

There is a difference, Blondiescot, between truly offensive and derogatory words used to describe people - the word I'm sure you mean was in common use years ago as a descriptive word.

However, dear etc? Only offensive in the ears of someone looking to take offence at the slightest thing.

volver3 Fri 28-Apr-23 14:47:22

sankev

Thanks for your replies. Probably didn’t really explain myself very well . The wokeness is a part of my issue but obviously not the example I used regarding DH. He’s a very nice man and very friendly. Would always help anyone out and would be upset if he offended anyone. It’s interesting to see the different opinions and grateful for the imput

My original response to you was sympathetic sankev and I still feel that way.

But blaming "wokeness" is not the problem.

Being "woke" is being alert to inequality, and unfairness. It's not the same as objecting when someone does something you think is insulting. It's not oversensitivity. It's not trying to make people think all the same way.

Hithere Fri 28-Apr-23 14:44:57

I think tolerance for people to refuse to adjust and admit the changes are needed are the issue, not the empathy for others

Who lacks empathy then?