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kircubbin2000 Fri 05-May-23 08:54:58

Just heard Katy Ricketts telling us what will happen when Charles is coronated.
What has happened to our language?

varian Sat 06-May-23 13:16:48

Ours is the only monarch left in Europe still crowned in a religious ceremony. All others have abandoned coronations or replaced them with simpler ceremonies to mark an accession.

A religious coronation is a peculiar way to inaugurate a head of state in one of the least religious countries on Earth. The UK's religious landscape has changed out of all recognition since the last coronation in 1953. We now have a non-religious majority and a significant proportion of citizens who follow non-Christian religions.

imaround Sat 06-May-23 12:50:46

I never mentioned racism nanna8. So I am not sure why you felt the need to mention it. I am sure to denigrate me for "gasp" not agreeing with the English people that an American paper printed a word that is used in American English is bad.

www.dictionary.com/browse/coronate

I do not need to look up the definition to Xeniphobia. I see examples all the time of it here on GN. .

If you you all have a problem with your media and young people using American terms, then you should work to stop it in your country and leave the Americans alone in theirs.

FannyCornforth Sat 06-May-23 09:02:29

⬆️ The xenophobia thing, that is

FannyCornforth Sat 06-May-23 09:01:42

Dickens I think it’s to do with us denigrating our American cousins for bastardising our beautiful English language

(Or it could be something to do with Victor Meldrew, perhaps 🤔)

Dickens Sat 06-May-23 08:13:27

Witzend

FannyCornforth

Witzend it does sound very disrespectful in that scenario. I definitely wouldn’t say it. I never said it with the children either, it was always others who would as me, ‘have you toileted the children’.
Yuck

It was a dementia-only care home, and TBH I honestly don’t think any of the ‘toiletees’ cared, that is if they were even aware. My poor old mother certainly didn’t.

It was a dementia-only care home, and TBH I honestly don’t think any of the ‘toiletees’ cared

People suffering dementia deserve the same respect as those who aren't, IMO. The fact they are unaware does not make it acceptable to use terminology that degrades them.

If the word "toileted" doesn't bother you, then fine - but it can be seen as de-humanising, in which case it shouldn't be acceptable to use it when dealing with dementia patients.

Dickens Sat 06-May-23 08:04:33

imaround

This of the most xenophobic thread I have ever seen on GN.

???

In what way? I'm genuinely puzzled.

harrigran Sat 06-May-23 07:57:18

Coronated is on a par with a dinner fork scraping a plate 😬
I have not heard it used around me thankfully.

NanaDana Sat 06-May-23 07:37:49

Coronated was initially an adjective meaning crown-shaped. Increasingly common usage which appears to have started in the U.S.A. has led it to now being occasionally used as a verb as an alternative to crowned, Personally, I think it's an ugly word, and don't see why anyone would choose to use it as an alternative. I'll stick with "crowned", thanks.

Foxygloves Sat 06-May-23 07:24:40

imaround

This of the most xenophobic thread I have ever seen on GN.

Somebody needs to look up xenophobic gringringrin

nanna8 Sat 06-May-23 07:16:38

I haven’t come across anything pertaining to ‘foreigners’ or fear and dislike of different people on here. What do you mean, xenophobic? Are you one of those people who looks for racism where it doesn’t exist ?

LRavenscroft Sat 06-May-23 06:55:39

I've come across the term 'coronated' when it came to a dead tree which is still standing where a crown shape has been cut into the top of the tall stump for insects to nest etc.

imaround Sat 06-May-23 00:03:35

This of the most xenophobic thread I have ever seen on GN.

Witzend Fri 05-May-23 19:18:05

FannyCornforth

Witzend it does sound very disrespectful in that scenario. I definitely wouldn’t say it. I never said it with the children either, it was always others who would as me, ‘have you toileted the children’.
Yuck

It was a dementia-only care home, and TBH I honestly don’t think any of the ‘toiletees’ cared, that is if they were even aware. My poor old mother certainly didn’t.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 05-May-23 14:07:50

Freudian slip!🤣

Dickens Fri 05-May-23 14:06:28

were not wee!

Dickens Fri 05-May-23 14:05:32

FannyCornforth

Dickens grin I didn’t realise that ‘toileted’ was used anywhere other than Primary Schools.

As a TA I spent a lot of time making sure the kids were all toileted before we left the school building to go anywhere.

I’m sure that someone (a KA?) will be there to ensure that KC has been toileted prior to his coronation.

(And also to make sure that he doesn’t mess about in the boys’ toilets)

Dickens I didn’t realise that ‘toileted’ was used anywhere other than Primary Schools.

I was in a ward a couple of years ago full of elderly ladies like myself - it was early morning, beds were being changed and patients led to the bathroom / shower.

A no-nonsense HCA shouted down the ward to another HCA in a very loud voice, "has Emma been toile'ed yet"... using the glottal stop. It all went very quiet for a few seconds while everyone looked around for poor Emma.

... who it appeared had been toile'ed and was wandering around one of the men's bays asking them if they wee enjoying their breakfast... grin

FannyCornforth Fri 05-May-23 12:35:49

Witzend it does sound very disrespectful in that scenario. I definitely wouldn’t say it. I never said it with the children either, it was always others who would as me, ‘have you toileted the children’.
Yuck

Witzend Fri 05-May-23 12:25:50

FannyCornforth

Dickens grin I didn’t realise that ‘toileted’ was used anywhere other than Primary Schools.

As a TA I spent a lot of time making sure the kids were all toileted before we left the school building to go anywhere.

I’m sure that someone (a KA?) will be there to ensure that KC has been toileted prior to his coronation.

(And also to make sure that he doesn’t mess about in the boys’ toilets)

‘Toileted’ and ‘toileting’ are used in care homes, at least that’s where I’ve seen or heard it.

I read previously that ‘coronated’ is legitimately used for e.g. a ‘coronated’ lizard, i.e. one with a crown-like growth on its head.

FannyCornforth Fri 05-May-23 12:06:51

Btw Jacky, I’ve sent you a pm

FannyCornforth Fri 05-May-23 12:06:17

JackyB

Didn't Henry VIII have a man to wipe his bottom? Was a very important position back in the day.

Yes. The Groom of the Stool 💩
What a cracker of a username

Foxygloves Fri 05-May-23 12:05:54

Greenfinch

I found out that up until quite recently the word coronate was used as an adjective rather than a verb. I quite like it as a verb. It fits nicely with the noun coronation.

No, no,no!
CORONATE is used only in biology, where it means. “crown-shaped.” The verb you want is CROWN , which means to make someone a sovereign. head of state by putting a crown on him or her.
The act of receiving the crown is simply to be “crowned”. There is no verb “coronated” applicable to this situation.

MaizieD Fri 05-May-23 12:01:49

Germanshepherdsmum

I get more like Victor Meldrew every day.

We do have something in common, then GSM grin

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 05-May-23 11:55:50

I get more like Victor Meldrew every day.

Greenfinch Fri 05-May-23 11:53:27

I found out that up until quite recently the word coronate was used as an adjective rather than a verb. I quite like it as a verb. It fits nicely with the noun coronation.

Squiffy Fri 05-May-23 11:45:41

My thoughts, too, Cali!

I suppose, at a stretch, it could be argued that, as it’s a coronation someone is being coronated?!