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kircubbin2000 Fri 05-May-23 08:54:58

Just heard Katy Ricketts telling us what will happen when Charles is coronated.
What has happened to our language?

JackyB Fri 05-May-23 09:01:15

www.gransnet.com/forums/pedants_corner/1317233-Coronated

This has been mentioned a couple of times before (in Pedants' Corner). There were two threads but I have only managed to find the one.

It hasn't happened for 70 years so people must have forgotten the word.

Witzend Fri 05-May-23 09:06:34

As I said before in Pedants’ Corner, I saw ‘coronated’ in a ‘quality’ American newspaper (IIRC the BostonnGlobe) just after the Queen died - we were across the pond at the time. Might add that a lot of flags in Cape Cod were at half mast - we’d assumed that it was for some notable American but were told no, it was for the Queen.

FannyCornforth Fri 05-May-23 09:12:19

Yes, it’s being used all over the gaff.
It looks as if we are stuck with it, I’m afraid

JackyB Fri 05-May-23 09:14:57

I also found this from a few years ago. It seems it's the Americans' fault.

nanna8 Fri 05-May-23 09:18:08

Funny this could come up because I was just talking about the same thing yesterday. Maybe it is an example of how language changes and develops . It sounds very weird to my ears though.

Dickens Fri 05-May-23 09:35:38

I think I can just about tolerate "coronated".

What I cannot abide - and it makes me toes curl - is when certain individuals in the medical profession who are designated to help patients to go to the toilet / bathroom, exclaim that they've been "toileted".

Or maybe I'm just being too silly - language changes I know, but for some reason that one just makes me squirm.

Just imagine Charles being "coronated" and then needing to pee immediately afterward - he could be "coronated" and "toileted" all within the same hour. grin

eazybee Fri 05-May-23 09:36:42

'Coronated' can scarcely be called a development of 'crowned'; it is an extremely ugly word and we do not have to use it.

nanna8 Fri 05-May-23 10:35:37

I agree with you Dickens. I think it is dehumanising and very rude and I think if anyone said that to me I’d scream !

NotSpaghetti Fri 05-May-23 10:40:04

I loathe it too!
What is wrong with "crowned"?

MaizieD Fri 05-May-23 10:45:34

NotSpaghetti

I loathe it too!
What is wrong with "crowned"?

It's fallen victim to all those people who say 'language changes'. grin

I have to say that when Mr M said it the other day he got very short shrift from me...

FannyCornforth Fri 05-May-23 10:49:03

Dickens grin I didn’t realise that ‘toileted’ was used anywhere other than Primary Schools.

As a TA I spent a lot of time making sure the kids were all toileted before we left the school building to go anywhere.

I’m sure that someone (a KA?) will be there to ensure that KC has been toileted prior to his coronation.

(And also to make sure that he doesn’t mess about in the boys’ toilets)

Glorianny Fri 05-May-23 10:50:19

I assume Americans think being 'crowned 'is something you do to your teeth!

JackyB Fri 05-May-23 11:18:15

Didn't Henry VIII have a man to wipe his bottom? Was a very important position back in the day.

Callistemon21 Fri 05-May-23 11:20:03

I thought 'coronated' was a joke word, to be used whe something is not taken seriously.

Squiffy Fri 05-May-23 11:45:41

My thoughts, too, Cali!

I suppose, at a stretch, it could be argued that, as it’s a coronation someone is being coronated?!

Greenfinch Fri 05-May-23 11:53:27

I found out that up until quite recently the word coronate was used as an adjective rather than a verb. I quite like it as a verb. It fits nicely with the noun coronation.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 05-May-23 11:55:50

I get more like Victor Meldrew every day.

MaizieD Fri 05-May-23 12:01:49

Germanshepherdsmum

I get more like Victor Meldrew every day.

We do have something in common, then GSM grin

Foxygloves Fri 05-May-23 12:05:54

Greenfinch

I found out that up until quite recently the word coronate was used as an adjective rather than a verb. I quite like it as a verb. It fits nicely with the noun coronation.

No, no,no!
CORONATE is used only in biology, where it means. “crown-shaped.” The verb you want is CROWN , which means to make someone a sovereign. head of state by putting a crown on him or her.
The act of receiving the crown is simply to be “crowned”. There is no verb “coronated” applicable to this situation.

FannyCornforth Fri 05-May-23 12:06:17

JackyB

Didn't Henry VIII have a man to wipe his bottom? Was a very important position back in the day.

Yes. The Groom of the Stool 💩
What a cracker of a username

FannyCornforth Fri 05-May-23 12:06:51

Btw Jacky, I’ve sent you a pm

Witzend Fri 05-May-23 12:25:50

FannyCornforth

Dickens grin I didn’t realise that ‘toileted’ was used anywhere other than Primary Schools.

As a TA I spent a lot of time making sure the kids were all toileted before we left the school building to go anywhere.

I’m sure that someone (a KA?) will be there to ensure that KC has been toileted prior to his coronation.

(And also to make sure that he doesn’t mess about in the boys’ toilets)

‘Toileted’ and ‘toileting’ are used in care homes, at least that’s where I’ve seen or heard it.

I read previously that ‘coronated’ is legitimately used for e.g. a ‘coronated’ lizard, i.e. one with a crown-like growth on its head.

FannyCornforth Fri 05-May-23 12:35:49

Witzend it does sound very disrespectful in that scenario. I definitely wouldn’t say it. I never said it with the children either, it was always others who would as me, ‘have you toileted the children’.
Yuck

Dickens Fri 05-May-23 14:05:32

FannyCornforth

Dickens grin I didn’t realise that ‘toileted’ was used anywhere other than Primary Schools.

As a TA I spent a lot of time making sure the kids were all toileted before we left the school building to go anywhere.

I’m sure that someone (a KA?) will be there to ensure that KC has been toileted prior to his coronation.

(And also to make sure that he doesn’t mess about in the boys’ toilets)

Dickens I didn’t realise that ‘toileted’ was used anywhere other than Primary Schools.

I was in a ward a couple of years ago full of elderly ladies like myself - it was early morning, beds were being changed and patients led to the bathroom / shower.

A no-nonsense HCA shouted down the ward to another HCA in a very loud voice, "has Emma been toile'ed yet"... using the glottal stop. It all went very quiet for a few seconds while everyone looked around for poor Emma.

... who it appeared had been toile'ed and was wandering around one of the men's bays asking them if they wee enjoying their breakfast... grin