The Coronation of Charles 111

The Coronation Concert was non specific surely? Since two people had been crowned, it was to celebrate the whole event?
I suggest that the country owes Camilla some gratitude for her support of a probably quite annoying 74 year old man. Not an easy task.

No, the concert was to celebrate the coronation of the King

I think maybe it indicated that in that moment, in fact in the whole Coronation, Prince William has been brought closer to his father than ever before. I don't think he was trying to leave Camilla out.

Do you think Prince William was trying to cancel Camilla?

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hello thought it odd no mention of queen camillahello

she was annointed and crowned wasn't that enough.

Bit silly. You could say that about Charles too.

silly me gott it now I think

*don't know why italics ^ didn't work? hence the hellos

hello thought it odd no mention of queen camillahello

she was annointed and crowned wasn't that enough.

I found this on another forum and found it interesting but sad, regarding the trombonist.

“My brother in law plays with The Prince of Wales’ Regimental Band… the marching has been practiced (“hammered”) for over a week, all with bands playing (almost continuously)…

After six hours a day playing/marching, they have had night rehearsals in London and then, on the day itself, had to be at barracks at 1:30am for a obligatory breakfast (nobody fainting through not eating) then chartered trains to Waterloo (if I remember that right).

They marched up from Waterloo into position, playing all the way. They then played/marched in the procession. And then (off camera!) they played/marched again back to Waterloo to catch their trains back to barracks! When playing, there was no break between marches - literally turn the card and off you go with the next.

The bass drummer for his band was signed off with exhaustion on Wednesday after rehearsing for over a week - it was his last engagement before retirement and he was absolutely gutted, but otherwise there was a real danger of him collapsing mid parade!

My BiL has blisters on his blisters, a split lip (he’s a cornet player) and is still aching from the marching. He drove home from barracks last night and by the time he came in at midnight yesterday he had done 24 hours straight. Needless to say, he had a lie in this morning and a long afternoon nap, too!

As he has said, he is immensely proud to have taken part in it all and says the planning and execution of the music for the occasion by the military bands was first class. At the end of the day, our military can absolutely out perform anyone when it comes to pageantry, but there is a human cost in sheer hard work and physical exhaustion to achieve it.

On an even more solemn note, watchers may have noticed the timpani and tuba players in the mounted band having problems with their horses during the parade; and there has been footage of one of the Life Guard’s horses being spooked and crashing into the barriers. What hasn’t been reported is the trombonist thrown from his mount after it was spooked and, as a result, having to have major facial surgery last night! My B-I-L knows him - he’d left the army but is in the reserves, and having previously played with the mounted band was helping them out due to personnel shortages. From the reports of his injuries, he’ll possibly never play his instrument again. Having said that, we all hope he makes a full recovery from his injuries.

My BiL is only thankful that - unless the King has an unexpected heart attack and drops dead sooner than expected - he won’t have to do the next one! In fact, he said that he would probably resign if they got notice of a second state funeral (and he thought that was hard work!)”

William did start his speech with - ‘your majesties’ .

Good point Molly, it’s all about the PR isn’t it. What a way to live.
(I just had a fleeting bit of sympathy for Harry <shudder>)

I wondered if William was aware of all the spite directed at Queen Camilla, and didn’t want to invoke more unpleasant comments towards her. It was King Charles’ coronation after all.

I think one ot two of the earlier Dukes, were more flexible in their religious affiliations.

Yes, it’s odd that William didn’t mention Camilla. You’d do it just out of politeness.
It reminds me a bit of the Fergie /no invite business.
The more I see of them and read on here about them, the more I realise that they really do things very differently to us lot

I thought it odd that there was no mention of Queen Camilla

She was mentioned concerning one of the acts, Lucy I think, the blind pianist. To do with a charity Camilla supports, think it was Amber or similar, but a bit hazy on it.

I suppose it was all centred on Charles really, I bet Camilla was quite happy about that.

The Howard family have held the title of Earl Marshall since 1483.

The Dukes of Norfolk maintained their Roman Catholic faith when Henry VIII broke away from Rome. Thomas, the 4th Duke, maintained his faith but not his head when he was executed for his part in a plot against Elizabeth by supporters of Mary Queen of Scots.

maybe he has to sign a code of conduct agreement

Bizziebe The Duke of Norfolk arranges all major royal events because he holds the inherited title of 'Earl Marshall', so any knowing of people was done many generations ago, this is why I am curious

Most of these titles and associated roles are purely honorary and nowadays amount to nothing much beyond wearing a fancy coat and turning up at ceremonies, but the Earl Marshal's role includes the organisation of royal events and is handed down from Duke of Norfolk to Duke of Norfolk, father to son.

Obviously arranging events like this, there is an organisation behind everything with permanent employees who do everything, but still, you need a good leader at the top, and i just wondered what would happen in a DofN, was not only incompetent, but interfering

It's interesting, too, that the Duke of Norfolk is a Roman Catholic.

The Dukes of Norfolk maintained their Roman Catholic faith when Henry VIII broke away from Rome.

Bits of the Coronation Concert were okay but I thought it odd that there was no mention of Queen Camilla. The views of the Royal Box were intriguing… were the Royal couple less than engaged with some of the acts? A desultory wave with a flag rather than applauding… although Kermit and Miss Piggy seemed to please.
I don’t think the Duke of Norfolk was involved with the concert. Impossible to do everything!

As with most of these aristocrats, it's who you know, not what you know. The Duke of Norfolk can afford to call upon the very best to organise the most elegant and the most spectacular show in town.
He is actually a former formula 1 racing driver so I'm guessing his precision and timing is second to none. Maybe Lewis Hamilton will get the job next time round?!

As, Oreo says, the organiser of the Coronation, as with everything else, of this nature is always the Duke of Norfolk, whoever he may be at the time.

I have often wondered what would happen if any particular Duke of Norfolk was a total incompetent who couldn't organise a p*ss up in a pub? Would he just be mounted on a stick as a figure head, while someone else did the organising, but what if he kept interfering, what wouls they do?

This must apply to all these inherited roles, but most of them are purely ceremonial and merely require turning up on time and wearing a costume, but the Duke of Norfolk's role is substantial and critical, so what happens if he is a muff.

I caught up yesterday afternoon. The silly thing is the programming cut off for 'emergent breaking news' about a forest fire in Alberta, and evacuations. Granted, it was important, but it went on for half an hour with the same people taking over and over. I missed the procession from the cathedral back to the palace! That was the part I was really interested in; seeing the carriage, I heard the RCMP were involved... grrr.

Anyway, it did cut back to the coverage when they reached the palace, and I saw the crowd be allowed in from the mall around the fountain or statue, and close to the palace. What a lot of people! And of course I did see the wave from the balcony. It was nice to see, and the first time I really saw them smile.

I'm not really a monarchist, but enjoy the tradition and pomp of the ceremony. I did respect the late Queen, and hope that her legacy of service to her country and the people lives on in her son during his reign.

Dickens, I welcomed your posts. If we can’t debate this huge historical event there’s no hope for us. The New York Times has bern running articles in the state of the UK. The suggestion is we are in transition from a country yearning to be the kind of world power/player we were with the biggest empire, to our current , post Brexit mess.

The coronation confirms we still do pomp and ceremony well. My view is the King tried to reflect our more diverse culture, with many faiths and none central to our lives. Dickens is correct, the King will never wait for health treatment, his health needs will be monitored, he won’t wait as we do, months to be seen by a consultant, or even by our own GP.