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Naked pair enjoy meal in non-naturalist pub.

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grannydarkhair Thu 08-Jun-23 21:27:19

What would you have done if you were in the pub when they walked in?
This is copied directly from a Mumsnet thread.

www.burnham-on-sea.com/news/diners-shocked-as-naked-pair-enjoy-meal-in-burnham-on-sea-pub/

Norah Sat 10-Jun-23 19:06:10

Doodledog

Yes, 'inclusivity' often excludes the majority rather than simply including the minority as it's meant to do.

Indeed.

Many "inclusivities" (my word) can do whatever inclusive thing I dislike without me and my family in audience- we'll leave quietly.

Nvella Sat 10-Jun-23 19:05:03

Many years ago my husband and I and our two sons aged 2 and 6 were on a French beach when an entire naked family walked past us and sat near us. I waited with bated breath for my children’s response “That man has forgotten his trunks” said the 2 yr old loudly and disapprovingly!

Quichette Sat 10-Jun-23 19:01:05

I'm unlikely to see this in the States as Americans are so prudish as to make the British look like amateurs. Being French I don't find nudity very disturbing. As for hygiene, who knows where people in pants and skirts have been sitting before they plopped down on the pub seat? I am mindful of the fact that computer keyboards have thousands more dangerous bacteria than toilet seats. People often fail to properly wash hands (for 30 seconds, with soap and warm water) after using the toilet then touch the doorknob, chair backs, table, etc.. Hands have far more bacteria than bums.

Doodledog Sat 10-Jun-23 18:56:58

Yes, 'inclusivity' often excludes the majority rather than simply including the minority as it's meant to do.

Dianehillbilly1957 Sat 10-Jun-23 18:50:42

Sweaty bums on seats!! That's what would put me off, otherwise let them get on with it if they must!

Dickens Sat 10-Jun-23 18:36:13

Dinahmo

Callistemon21

Dinahmo

Surely whilst they're sitting at the table you aren't going to see their genitals?

They have to get to the table!

One could look away.

One could - and probably would. And if 'one' is sitting some distance away, there's even less opportunity to see anything. But not so for those seated close by - unless the pub staff have cleared an area specially for the couple.

But none of this is to the point, is it?

We wear underwear for a reason - does that need pointing out? That we put a layer of material between those often damp and sweaty parts of the body and the outerwear. Shall I further point out that not everyone is fastidious when having to relieve themselves - either through carelessness or lack of the necessary facilities to clean up. A pub is more often than not an intimate space, that's part of its attraction, Some pubs / bistros and other eating places will not allow men with bare chests, or wearing vests - they know it can be off-putting being confronted with sweaty and hairy armpits when you are eating.

That's why there's a huge difference between that environment and naturists outdoors on the beach, or sunbathing, swimming, hiking, etc.

... and the reason I'm labouring the point is because it appears those of us who object to the principle of Neil and Danielle sitting on their bin liners are being treated as if they are the odd ones out.

And why didn't the silly person on the pub staff who wanted to be "inclusive" and use it as a 'learning experience" give the couple permission and exclude those who were already in the pub by not consulting them! Maybe they didn't want to be part of this learning experience.

Callistemon21 Sat 10-Jun-23 17:54:59

hallgreenmiss

Dickens

Wyllow3

Erm...opportunity to educate the kids?

Assuming parents need to have the opportunity thrust on them?

I bet most parents would prefer to decide when their kids were confronted with nudity - by complete strangers - and not have the decision made for them.

Personally I prefer not to be confronted with strangers' genitals and bottoms in a dining environment. On a beach, or out in nature it would be acceptable, but not up close and personal in a pub.

Sure, it's not illegal, but I think that's largely irrelevant, they're forcing other people to accept their values. I wouldn't walk into one of their venues fully-clothed if that was not the norm, it would seem rather an arrogant thing to do on my part.

The pub agreed - did they ask the other patrons if they agreed, whilst they were polishing their 'inclusivity' badge?

I agree

I agree too.

It's not a social norm.

hallgreenmiss Sat 10-Jun-23 17:39:45

Dickens

Wyllow3

Erm...opportunity to educate the kids?

Assuming parents need to have the opportunity thrust on them?

I bet most parents would prefer to decide when their kids were confronted with nudity - by complete strangers - and not have the decision made for them.

Personally I prefer not to be confronted with strangers' genitals and bottoms in a dining environment. On a beach, or out in nature it would be acceptable, but not up close and personal in a pub.

Sure, it's not illegal, but I think that's largely irrelevant, they're forcing other people to accept their values. I wouldn't walk into one of their venues fully-clothed if that was not the norm, it would seem rather an arrogant thing to do on my part.

The pub agreed - did they ask the other patrons if they agreed, whilst they were polishing their 'inclusivity' badge?

I agree

grandtanteJE65 Sat 10-Jun-23 17:29:30

Well, it's apparently not illegal in the UK - I've just googled it, but I don't think it is either in good taste, or acceptable at all.

But then I wouldn't enter a shop, pub, café or restaurant in my swimsuit either, or my nightwear.

I think, I would have called a waiter over and asked if I might pay the bill and have my food packed as takeaway, explaining that I am too old-fashioned to want to eat in company with complete strangers in the nude.

FannyCornforth Sat 10-Jun-23 16:58:56

Fleurpepper

I often eat with naturalists, and none of them are ever naked smile

I must admit, I wouldn’t like to see Mr Attenborough sans underwear

FannyCornforth Sat 10-Jun-23 16:57:42

NotSpaghetti

FannyCornforth
grin
⛓️

Yes, it’s definitely sexually motivated.
But ‘they are just good friends’ eh?
It’s a glorified sexual fantasy which we are all taking part in.

Go home and put some 🤬 clothes on, you dirty beggars!

Fleurpepper Sat 10-Jun-23 16:56:42

I often eat with naturalists, and none of them are ever naked smile

NotSpaghetti Sat 10-Jun-23 16:53:46

FannyCornforth
grin
⛓️

FannyCornforth Sat 10-Jun-23 16:53:32

Galaxy

You could look away. Yes your boundaries arent important. Brilliant message in particular to send to women and girls.

Dreadful isn’t it.
I’m really surprised at some of the reactions on here.

margauxbordeaux Sat 10-Jun-23 16:41:44

Smileless2012

Pretend I hadn't noticed; obviously attention seeking.

Attention seeking ..

Pretend I had not noticed.

Galaxy Sat 10-Jun-23 16:34:55

You could look away. Yes your boundaries arent important. Brilliant message in particular to send to women and girls.

Callistemon21 Sat 10-Jun-23 16:16:25

ordinarygirl

where did they keep their money????

Fanny pack?
Or a Bum bag?

ordinarygirl Sat 10-Jun-23 16:09:13

where did they keep their money????

Callistemon21 Sat 10-Jun-23 15:57:13

Dinahmo

Callistemon21

Dinahmo

Surely whilst they're sitting at the table you aren't going to see their genitals?

They have to get to the table!

One could look away.

But that means that their behaviour and preferences forces others to change theirs or makes them discomfited..

If you're sitting down and look round to find genitalia a few inches away from your direct gaze then some people might feel uncomfortable with that.

Dinahmo Sat 10-Jun-23 15:52:35

Callistemon21

Dinahmo

Surely whilst they're sitting at the table you aren't going to see their genitals?

They have to get to the table!

One could look away.

Callistemon21 Sat 10-Jun-23 15:51:53

Can you imagine how uncomfortable and mortifying it must be to eat one’s lunch naked and sitting on a bin liner?

Especially on a hot day
Sweaty Betty

Dinahmo Sat 10-Jun-23 15:51:46

I remember many, many years ago, whilst staying with some friends, their young son, unclothed, sat at the breakfast table, playing with his genitals the whole time except for when he reached for a jar, or the toast etc. Not at all hygienic. This was 55 years ago so you can tell it had a lasting impression. One assumes that this couple weren't touching hteir genitals whilst at the table.

Callistemon21 Sat 10-Jun-23 15:50:14

Dinahmo

Surely whilst they're sitting at the table you aren't going to see their genitals?

They have to get to the table!

Dinahmo Sat 10-Jun-23 15:47:30

Surely whilst they're sitting at the table you aren't going to see their genitals?

harrysgran Sat 10-Jun-23 15:41:18

Attention seeking and I don't think I'd be ordering toad in the hole from the menu it would put me right off