Boris is going to write in the Daily Mail

Everybody is so quick to deride the Daily Mail but it has sterling service on the bottom of the budgie’s cage for years.

Oxford MAs do not require any further study if you wait 7years.

Dickens and maddyone - your posts remind us what a serious variant we were at risk of catching and spreading.
Many people died and many left with serious long term health problems.
It does matter to me what those in government and those working for them were doing. Breaching guidance was unforgivable

I have read the Daily Mail a few times but frankly it's not worth reading and I never read it now. Paying BoJo to write for it does not encourage me to read it at all. Too much tripe about 'celebrities' and the like.

Dickens four months, you poor thing.

My husband was in ICU three times in one year, but they were short stays.
He suffered from PTSD a few months later.

You are doing really, really well.

maddyone

I hope you’re getting well too Dickens.

I was ill and in hospital too during that period, but I was only in for twelve days with Covid. With regard to my not having any visitors during that period, I’m not seething. I knew everything was being done by my doctors and nurses to get me well and frankly I didn’t/don’t care what people in Downing Street were doing. I cared about me getting well and going home and I put all my effort into that. No one could visit my elderly mother either when she was in hospital then. We accepted it because it was what it was. Luckily she got better at that time and so did I. Four months is a long time without visitors, hopefully you could talk on the phone to your husband and family.

Thank you maddyone - it's ongoing, but I'm not expecting any more lengthy stays in hospital (the last was my second four-month stint). And there are others who are far worse off than me, something I became aware of during my stay.

Anything over a few days in hospital feels like a long-time, and I suspect your 12 days was long enough for you to want to be back home PDQ. You must have been quite poorly with COVID to be in for that length of time.

I accepted the situation, I knew that keeping me in and away from other patients and visitors was in my best interests. It was confining though, and my room was tiny and cramped and I did have a couple of wobbly moments of panic - which is why I was allowed to stalk the corridors at midnight. I think I was more worried about my OH frankly, and it was the feelings of helplessness and the inability to do anything about it that led to the panic attacks.

As for what was going on in Downing Street - I don't think any of us knew anyway and, as you say, when you're ill in hospital, your focus is on getting well, and getting out.

My 'beef' with Johnson is his lack of honesty, the lies, the deception, and his refusal to accept any culpability or responsibility for his actions. He does indeed seem to feel that he should be free of the constraints that normally bind other people, and that we are callous for not allowing him to do so.

If he'd put his hands up right from the moment he was caught out and accepted whatever 'punishment' was seen as a necessary embargo on his parliamentary activities, 'Partygate' might never have got off the ground.

Dickens tell me about it! 🤦‍♀️

FannyCornforth

Callistemon it’s a really boring read, it’s about his diet and diet drugs.

As an aside, who does he think he’s kidding with his ‘jogging’?

I sincerely hope that he won’t be bringing out a fitness dvd for Christmas

As an aside, who does he think he’s kidding with his ‘jogging’?

It's quite possible that his jogging and diet are in fact having an effect - in that these disciplines could well be preventing him from putting on more unwanted weight. He's at an age when getting-fit is more difficult, and the results sometimes less obvious!

Callistemon21

I often agree with your posts, Dickens as they are usually full of common sense but I cannot agree with the attack on Witzend.
She didn't say she held Boris in high regard at all, it was
Just an observation on why, perhaps, the sales of the DM may have gone up.

DM readers are subjected to an almost daily onslaught if disparaging comments from other posters who, by their posts, obviously consider themselves intellectually superior to the uneducated who read that 'rag'.
It is, though, noteworthy and ironic that most of the links on here to articles in the DM are from those who profess to despise it but must scour it regularly in order to become enraged.

I don't read it btw so no axe to grind except fairness.

There are many of us who have reason to feel enraged by some of his actions. I couldn't visit DH in hospital but Boris and his cronies were partying so yes, I'm angry too.

I hope you're on the road to recovery now.

She didn't say she held Boris in high regard at all...

Indeed she didn't... and I didn't accuse her of doing so !

That wasn't my argument.

I'm not one of those who sneer at the DM readership - I think it has quite a broad base in truth, the assumption that only the 'uneducated-working-class' read it I believe is false.

I do however think it is politically slanted - but in less subtle ways than, for example, The Guardian.

The Guardian used to allow comments on many of its articles, and now - not so much. Many of us commenting came to the conclusion that there was a 'narrative' - and it was one that the commenters were not necessarily following, me included. IMO, not allowing comments on controversial topics because they don't reflect the paper's credo, is just a more subtle form of media bias.

Primrose it’s hardly the ‘required reading in Westminster - and across the world!’ as The DM hyperbolically trumpeted on Friday.

I’m sure most that readers were left disappointed.

And old hack could have written it.

FannyCornforth

Callistemon it’s a really boring read, it’s about his diet and diet drugs.

As an aside, who does he think he’s kidding with his ‘jogging’?

I sincerely hope that he won’t be bringing out a fitness dvd for Christmas

Why do you assume he is “kidding” anybody with his jogging? Can’t he even go for a run without having to explain himself?

He has been a jogger since his Uni days as well as playing lots of other sports as he is very competitive. I saw someone on TV once who said Boris is a great tennis player and someone scary to play against. They also said he is surprisingly agile for someone big and bulky.

I don’t think his column was a boring read either. It was well written, truthful and funny in parts. He admits he has always loved food and sneaks downstairs at night looking for treats to eat. He says the diet jabs didn’t work for him and they didn’t for my neighbour either. She lost less than 7 lbs in 6 weeks, still feels hungry and it’s costing her £170 a month.

I hope you’re getting well too Dickens.

I was ill and in hospital too during that period, but I was only in for twelve days with Covid. With regard to my not having any visitors during that period, I’m not seething. I knew everything was being done by my doctors and nurses to get me well and frankly I didn’t/don’t care what people in Downing Street were doing. I cared about me getting well and going home and I put all my effort into that. No one could visit my elderly mother either when she was in hospital then. We accepted it because it was what it was. Luckily she got better at that time and so did I. Four months is a long time without visitors, hopefully you could talk on the phone to your husband and family.

Callistemon it’s a really boring read, it’s about his diet and diet drugs.

As an aside, who does he think he’s kidding with his ‘jogging’?

I sincerely hope that he won’t be bringing out a fitness dvd for Christmas

Excuse typos

I often agree with your posts, Dickens as they are usually full of common sense but I cannot agree with the attack on Witzend.
She didn't say she held Boris in high regard at all, it was
Just an observation on why, perhaps, the sales of the DM may have gone up.

DM readers are subjected to an almost daily onslaught if disparaging comments from other posters who, by their posts, obviously consider themselves intellectually superior to the uneducated who read that 'rag'.
It is, though, noteworthy and ironic that most of the links on here to articles in the DM are from those who profess to despise it but must scour it regularly in order to become enraged.

I don't read it btw so no axe to grind except fairness.

There are many of us who have reason to feel enraged by some of his actions. I couldn't visit DH in hospital but Boris and his cronies were partying so yes, I'm angry too.

I hope you're on the road to recovery now.

maddyone

I’ve downloaded the Mail online. I wanted to find out what all the fuss is about and to read the first column from BJ. It was about a weight loss drug. Today there’s an interesting article about recycling. It makes clear how little is actually recycled from all the stuff we put out to recycle and also how little of the clothing we donate to charity shops is actually sold, the rest being shipped abroad where it is having an effect on jobs in some third world countries. Why is journalism such as this looked down on?

No idea maddyone but no doubt someone will be along shortly to educate us…

Witzend

The DM evidently thought he’d bump up their sales, and they’re probably right - and I don’t for a moment think extra sales will all be to Boris-lovers. Some of those who can’t stand him will enjoy a really good frothing at the mouth at whatever he writes.

Such contempt for those who have good reasons to question his lack of honesty and integrity.

I spent 4 months in hospital including over the Christmas period in a 'side' room no bigger than a broom-cupboard unable to see my OH because visitors were not allowed. Unable to exercise except for a brief 10 minute walk along the corridor at midnight in order to avoid mixing with other patients. I spent that Christmas staring at the brick wall visible from the tiny window, listening to Christmas carols on the tinny radio outside on the Nurse's Station, waiting for the telephone calls from my disabled OH who also sat alone at home - apart from the twice weekly visits from his carer. The Ward Sister was kind but emphatic - no visitors because "those are the rules I'm afraid".

I'm not frothing at the mouth - I feel a quiet, cold scorn for the man, the same scorn he holds for those who had no option but to subject themselves to his rules.

And the contempt you are showing for those who "can't stand him" is exactly equal to the derision of those who think they are superior to the DM readership.

I’ve downloaded the Mail online. I wanted to find out what all the fuss is about and to read the first column from BJ. It was about a weight loss drug. Today there’s an interesting article about recycling. It makes clear how little is actually recycled from all the stuff we put out to recycle and also how little of the clothing we donate to charity shops is actually sold, the rest being shipped abroad where it is having an effect on jobs in some third world countries. Why is journalism such as this looked down on?

Gransnetters not Grannetters

Witzend

The DM evidently thought he’d bump up their sales, and they’re probably right - and I don’t for a moment think extra sales will all be to Boris-lovers. Some of those who can’t stand him will enjoy a really good frothing at the mouth at whatever he writes.

😂😂😂

Most of the articles I read in the DM are from links by Grannetters frothing at the mouth.

The readership must be very high amongst those who say what a dreadful rag it is, only fit for the uneducated classes and how much they hate it 😁

I haven't read Boris's article yet - is it worth 10 minutes of my time? I'll look for a link on here.

Primrose53 if you go into the mail online you will see a list of topics across the page. The last one says Puzzles or games. If you click on that it will take you to a host of free puzzles including Crosswords and Sudokus as well as various games. You may have to put up with a starting advert.

The DM evidently thought he’d bump up their sales, and they’re probably right - and I don’t for a moment think extra sales will all be to Boris-lovers. Some of those who can’t stand him will enjoy a really good frothing at the mouth at whatever he writes.

Oreo

Callistemon21

DH has just come home with a Daily Mail.
He said "I know you like the TV bit"

Is this grounds for divorce?

Hardly😂
DP buys the Mail now and again, it’s a quick read for news and has loads of crosswords/ Su Doku /puzzles.Too much snobbery about it.The Mail and Express and Mirror are the fave papers of working people.

Quite right Oreo. I don’t buy any newspapers now but used to like the DM for puzzles, for food ideas and recipes, for the Femail section, for the TV guide and the big colour supplement was always a good read covering travel, holidays and regular columnists.

We were away last weekend and the hotel had a good range of newspapers in the foyer. I thought I might buy a DM as I was on holiday but the guy in front bought the last one. The receptionist said they always sell out twice as fast as others.

It’s a bit like Brexit isn’t it? Some people still can’t get over the fact that the majority of British people who voted, voted to leave the EU. Some people don’t like the fact that the DM is a very, very popular newspaper just because they don’t like it!

Marydoll, at the supermarket yesterday, the DM had sold out. It always goes quickly-I thought it was because of the puzzle pages or the TV bit, but maybe it was curiosity about BJ.

My husband came back from the paper shop with the news that the owner has had to return many copies of the Daily Mail.
Customers, who normaally take it on Saturday refused to buy it yesterday, because Boris was on the front page and had a column.