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Sparklefizz Sun 25-Jun-23 19:11:21

Why are drag queens being booked to read to children in libraries, schools etc? What is the point? I genuinely don't understand.

If it's to be more inclusive, surely it would be better to ask little people like Ellie Simmonds, people who are deaf, etc ... ie. people who have a "condition" rather than people who just like to dress up?

Galaxy Sun 25-Jun-23 21:00:10

I find drag in general fairly misogynistic so not that keen. I feel the same about panto dames, on the whole.

NanaDana Sun 25-Jun-23 20:58:27

Doodledog

Would those who support the idea of drag queens reading to children be equally enthusiastic about someone in blackface doing story time?

If not, why not?

Surely you don't need this explaining to you?

VioletSky Sun 25-Jun-23 20:56:51

I'm really not getting any real answers about how this is a problem at all

Well except for conjecture which isn't helpful

So I cannot possibly understand how a drag queen reading a book is an issue

Don't like it, don't go, let the parents decide

Doodledog Sun 25-Jun-23 20:52:05

Would those who support the idea of drag queens reading to children be equally enthusiastic about someone in blackface doing story time?

If not, why not?

NanaDana Sun 25-Jun-23 20:51:27

I think it rather depends on how the Drag Queen presents. Those who choose to adopt a highly sexualised appearance, I wouldn't find appropriate to be interacting with young children in any environment, whether supervised or not. I'd have no problem with a more pantomime dame presentation, which might even lend itself to telling fairy tales or the like. It's all about context, appearance and presentation.

Iam64 Sun 25-Jun-23 20:48:30

fancythat

New world stuff. Wokeism

What does that mean ?

fancythat Sun 25-Jun-23 20:47:36

New world stuff. Wokeism

Gillycats Sun 25-Jun-23 20:43:07

What stories are being read to the children I wonder? If it’s all about LGBTQ then no. I can understand it being discussed with teenagers in a classroom setting but it’s not appropriate for young children.

MrsSquirrel Sun 25-Jun-23 20:37:15

I agree with NanKate, children are being sexualised too young.

Drag is a sexualised performance. It's not just a man in make up wearing a dress. Not appropriate for children.

Iam64 Sun 25-Jun-23 20:33:51

Violet, I’m sure I’m not the only gransnetter with gay and lesbian friends and family. Not the issue.

As a child, I didn’t really appreciate the pantomime dames, the Prince being a beautiful female etc. The smut/innuendo doesn’t thrill me either but I can suspend judgement and enjoy shouting he’s behind you with everyone.

My question about the context behind this move to increase the number of drag queens reading to children.

Allsorts Sun 25-Jun-23 20:31:27

I am pleasantly surprised Iam, I’ve really got fed up some who read something into nothing. Why would you have a Drag Queen, presumably in their full attire read to young children, what is the reasoning behind it? It’s not a pantomime it’s reading. School is not the place for people dressed provocatively, show a bit of respect.

PamelaJ1 Sun 25-Jun-23 20:29:03

VioletSky

How is reading sexualising children?

Reading isn’t.

VioletSky Sun 25-Jun-23 20:21:00

How is reading sexualising children?

VioletSky Sun 25-Jun-23 20:20:04

I've never ridiculed someone who does Panto, I don't see a reason to hold them or drag queens in contempt

NanKate Sun 25-Jun-23 20:18:01

IMO children are being sexualised too young. Why can’t they be allowed to be innocent children.

If I, as a child, had been read to by a Drag Queen I would have been nervous and confused. I was frightened of clowns too.

I have nothing against drag queens entertaining adults. The Drag Queen shows in Brighton, where my son lives, are very popular.

Bella23 Sun 25-Jun-23 20:06:37

Panto mine dames dress as they do to be laughed at and ridiculed they expect it. Woe betide anyone these days who ridicules a drag queen, who is often more provocatively dressed than most women.

VioletSky Sun 25-Jun-23 20:03:42

Do we shame mums who "dress provocatively" too?

Freya5 Sun 25-Jun-23 19:45:02

VioletSky

Did no one ever take their children to a Panto?

Large difference between panto dames, and men dressing provocatively to read to children.

BlueBelle Sun 25-Jun-23 19:41:36

Surely the stage is a totally different ball game it’s acting a part, girls could be boys and men could be women, it’s called acting it was the whole audience participation of ‘its behind you’ but kids sitting in a room being read to by a man a or a woman or transgender is totally different to a man grotesquely and the drag queens of today are grotesque (not at all like the Danny laRues of the day who had class) reading a story to small kids makes completely no sense to me …why ??

VioletSky Sun 25-Jun-23 19:34:44

Some children have parent who do drag as well as LGBTQ parents

Is that a problem too?

eazybee Sun 25-Jun-23 19:33:48

I am an enthusiastic pantomime goer and took my children with me.
Drag queens are not Pantomime Dames, although some of them try to be.
Different tradition altogether.
The only one I liked was Danny La Rue.

VioletSky Sun 25-Jun-23 19:29:57

Anniebach

Why should drag queens read to children VioletSky ?

Because children like being read too and it doesn't matter to them who does it?

PamelaJ1 Sun 25-Jun-23 19:28:36

My DGS was playa game rated suitable for 7year olds- no bad language, no violence.
My sort of game until:
Which flag shall I have granny?
I will post a photo of the screen, it’s difficult to read the titles under the flags but you may get the gist.

Iam64 Sun 25-Jun-23 19:28:06

Allsorts, sparklefizz hasn’t been ‘jumped on’ here, quite the opposite.

Blondiescot Sun 25-Jun-23 19:27:38

VioletSky

Did no one ever take their children to a Panto?

That was my thought exactly, VioletSky.