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Do charity shops enable us to justify buying too many clothes?

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M0nica Sun 30-Jul-23 10:10:58

This is just a thought that has a risen from recent threads on clothes, style and fashion.

So many people seemed to buy so many clothes and then justify things by saying they have a good clear out every so often and donate clothes to charity shops. I found myself wondering, how much this destination for unwanted clothes is used as an excuse to justify buying more clothes.

We know that charity shops throw away a large proportion of donations because they are not suitable or are dirty/worn.

If we couldn't justify disposing of decent clothing to Charity shops would we buy fewer items of clothing and wear them until they were unwearable. If charity shops were to reveal how much of the donations they receive go straight to 'recycling' (ship and dump in another, poorer country) would we buy more carefully?

BlueBelle Mon 31-Jul-23 13:31:39

Perhaps it’s different in Aussieland Fael I think Nanna8 is over seas

Fae1 Mon 31-Jul-23 13:26:01

I find this surprising Nanna8. I buy second hand books all the time both online and from my local charity shops, YMCA, Salvation Army etc.

Lathyrus Mon 31-Jul-23 09:55:37

Did you buy it?

I would still keep the sweater though😁

I quite often find a thing I haven’t worn for a couple of years is just right later on.

If the moths don’t get it😬😱

M0nica Mon 31-Jul-23 09:52:06

The reason I started this thread is because, when out in the local supermarket this week I, or rather DD, saw exactly the right knitted cardigan to go with a dress I have. It will look far better than the sweater I currently wear over the dress when it is cool. I bought the cardigan.

I then thought about what to do with the sweater, it isn't one that really goes with anything else I own, so my immediate thought was, I can give it to a charity shop. It is fairly new, in good condition and comes from Woolovers.

baubles Sun 30-Jul-23 21:12:20

Some people do actually think we have washing machines. I’ve had people tell me that their donations will just need a quick wash and were quite annoyed when I told them that we don’t have washing facilities. It was suggested that I take them home to wash and iron. Sure I’ll do that for you no problem Not!

Jaxjacky Sun 30-Jul-23 19:11:26

The biggest donation my local charity shop got was seven years ago when I took early retirement. Since then I live in jeans/shorts, t shirts and jumpers, as they wear out, really worn out, they get replaced. My only donations now are books, occasionally an unwanted raffle prize.

Tenko Sun 30-Jul-23 18:50:19

I volunteer in a charity shop and books are really popular particularly paperbacks . We always need more . Some of our regulars return the books. I love my kindle but I prefer a book and take both on holiday .
As for clothes , I love clothes and mix high end with high street. I wear most of what’s in my wardrobe and have a cull twice a year and sell either on vinted or eBay . Worn and tatty stuff gets used as cleaning rags.
Volunteering in a charity shop has opened my eyes to where stuff ends up.
And to people donating stuff that’s dirty and tatty . I think they just bung it a bag without thinking , can this be sold? Or they they think we have a washing machine!!

MerylStreep Sun 30-Jul-23 18:43:16

Redhead
You can’t imagine what people dump on us 😡
My lovely manger never turns a bag away. I’m managing for 6 weeks so there will be some upset people 😉

Urmstongran Sun 30-Jul-23 18:34:42

My mum was a shopaholic. So many shoes & sandals for instance - she would’ve needed to be a centipede to wear them all. To be honest I think she bought so much because (a) she could afford to after a truly rotten childhood from the age of nine and (b) half the time she didn’t realise what she’d already got in her wardrobes.

Fortunately I dint inherit her shopping gene. I have little interest in clothes. I buy as a need rather than ‘want’. I don’t ‘go shopping’ as I’m sure browsing that way fuels the habit.

My carbon footprint is smaller because of this. I am not materialistic in the least.

My book habit costs me enough disposable income!

25Avalon Sun 30-Jul-23 18:27:09

Caravansera

I recommend Andrew Brooks 2019 book Clothing Poverty: The Hidden World of Fast Fashion and Second-Hand Clothes.

He explains how recycled clothes are traded across continents and uncovers how retailers and international charities are embroiled in commodity chains which perpetuate poverty and dependence in sub-Saharan Africa.

I read an article on that Caravansea. We think we are doing good so justify ourselves in taking old clothes to charity shops and then buying new ones, but we are not doing good.

ronib Sun 30-Jul-23 18:20:47

My local church organises a monthly book swap so you bring a few to put in, get tokens for the number given and then take out the same number. Tea and cake is available plus chatting. No charge for admission but small price for refreshments. Also way of meeting people.

Maggiemaybe Sun 30-Jul-23 17:56:45

Oh, sorry, I digressed there! Back to the subject....

I rarely have any decent clothes to give to a charity shop because I buy my clothes to last - I wouldn't dare say how old some of them are, but many of the shops I bought them from are defunct. By the time I'm finished with them nobody would want them! Again, my friend's charity shop takes them - they sell "rags" on and are paid by weight for them.

Maggiemaybe Sun 30-Jul-23 17:54:00

People certainly do buy books round here from charity shops (says she, with a pile of at least 20 of them just waiting to be read blush). It's the one thing my volunteer charity shop worker friend says they run out of constantly, and always need more of. There's a designated Oxfam book shop in a nearby city and it's always busy too - we had a clear out recently and donated around 15 boxes of vintage annuals and books to them. They've been in touch to say that most of them will be listed online and they hope to make a decent sum from the sales.

I also buy second hand books from World of Books, if there's something I particularly want.

Witzend Sun 30-Jul-23 17:53:14

I don’t look in charity shops for myself, because whenever I used to, I never found anything I liked.
Dds fare a lot better in their area - they often find virtually new, or actually new dresses originally priced at say £60, for £8-10. Some even have the labels still attached.

Some people will buy masses of clothes anyway. I used to know someone who was endlessly buying, but only if things were really cheap in the sales. When she once showed me her latest ‘bargain’ trousers, I asked how many pairs she had at home.
‘Probably about 70’.
But so many of her ‘bargains’ ended up in piles cluttering up the house, her dh eventually got so fed up, he took a load of them to - wait for it - the tip! Brand new things, never worn! Couldn’t even be bothered to take them to a charity shop! I was so bloody 🤬!

PamelaJ1 Sun 30-Jul-23 17:43:01

A thank you to all those of you who buy new books. I can’t remember when bought a brand new one. I’m always prepared to wait.
We have an old telephone kiosk too in our village that doubles as a library.
I’m too old now to wonder if I’m ultra fashionable, but when I look at clothes in the shops they doesn’t seem to be much difference between what they are offering and what I have in the wardrobe.
I’m wondering if I can wear the dress I wore to my DD’s wedding (25years old) to my nephews this year. I love it.
So any things donated to charity shops etc. end up in landfill in third world countries.

Caravansera Sun 30-Jul-23 17:28:07

I recommend Andrew Brooks 2019 book Clothing Poverty: The Hidden World of Fast Fashion and Second-Hand Clothes.

He explains how recycled clothes are traded across continents and uncovers how retailers and international charities are embroiled in commodity chains which perpetuate poverty and dependence in sub-Saharan Africa.

BlueBelle Sun 30-Jul-23 17:01:54

Gosh Nanna8 we do great business in books at the charity shop I work at What we don’t sell in the shop we sell on eBay Amazon or Ziffit and make extra money that way It’s mainly the dirty or worn old books that have to be chucked
There’s also book finds leave one laying on a public bench or wall for someone to find you can leave it in a plastic bag if the weather is bad There’s groups that do this I used to belong to one I can’t remember what it’s called though You had a sticker to put on it and recorded when you found one

Bella23 Sun 30-Jul-23 16:48:39

nanna8

No one wants second hand books anymore, even if they are in as new condition. Our op shops won’t accept them. I don’t like chucking them in the bin when there is nothing wrong with them and so one of my groups has started a book swap. You bring a book to swap once a month.( I have to fess up and say I take 2 or 3 there and bring just 1 back.

I like your idea ronib , In our village, the defunct telephone Kiosk is a book swap. It is next to the recycling bins and people can drop off at the same time. In DD's town, a charity has leased an empty shop and has it set up as a bookshop. They are all categorised and you put a donation in the charity box. You see lots of people in some don't seem to realise it is second-hand books. Good luck with it.

ronib Sun 30-Jul-23 16:32:57

Just had a very good rummage through some of the 40 table top stalls set up in front gardens around my village yesterday. I found children’s designer clothes, excellent toys and books for grandchildren plus new photo frame and luxury bath bombs. It raised funds for a local charity and was a fun day.
It was a way of clearing out no longer needed items. In a way shoppers still got a dopamine boost from unexpected finds so maybe no need to shop for awhile?

nanna8 Sun 30-Jul-23 13:06:06

No one wants second hand books anymore, even if they are in as new condition. Our op shops won’t accept them. I don’t like chucking them in the bin when there is nothing wrong with them and so one of my groups has started a book swap. You bring a book to swap once a month.( I have to fess up and say I take 2 or 3 there and bring just 1 back.

Bella23 Sun 30-Jul-23 13:03:17

I don't think it would make any difference. Some people like to keep abreast of fashion but don't always have the best quality they can afford and have money to buy duplicates.
We are encouraged to use the one-year rule and if donating to a charity shop leave the tag on. If I applied the one-year rule of if not worn this year donate, my wardrobe would be half empty. I often keep things for more than a year unworn so that I am not walking around like a clone of everyone else. Also, one set of clothes and shoes has now seen me through three weddings 7 years apart.
At least they are sending them to the Charity shop which is benefitting from getting clothes in a better state than sweaty and dirty.
Stop the Charity shops and the over-spender's clothes will go to landfill as will the clothes of the one-year rule followers.

Redhead56 Sun 30-Jul-23 12:54:43

I think some people use charity shops as dumping grounds to rid themselves of unwanted items. The same as those who fly tip another disgraceful habit. They are too idle to dispose of clothes or goods themselves.

One charity we give to check the bags we take in so there are no quilts or pillows etc as they don’t take them now. We used to take these items to two animal shelters close by but they both closed permanently so they go the local recycling centre.

I don’t buy clothes from charity shops now when I was younger I did I never had an excess of clothes then. Now I buy what I want and usually put something not worn for a while in a bag for charity. I would never consider putting something in a charity bag unclean that’s just down right disgusting.

Lathyrus Sun 30-Jul-23 11:50:46

I think what I notice is how people buy the same clothes over and over again and never wear them.

Sometimes a bag at the Charity shop I volunteer in will have half a dozen black trousers with the labels still on or several white T-shirt’s or blouses ditto. Or for some reason, jumpers in that purple-pink.🤷🏽‍♀️

I admit to a tendency to navy blue but at least I do wear it (working hard to be able to get into the autumn navy blue trousers😳)

MerylStreep Sun 30-Jul-23 11:13:23

Riverwalk
It certainly does 😱

Riverwalk Sun 30-Jul-23 11:04:21

It’s made me think of the amount of brand new, with price tags still on that I take out of a donation bag.

Meryl that must make a nice change though from dirty socks, and worse, that charity shops get given.