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Primrose53 Mon 31-Jul-23 10:35:09

Horrified to hear that a woman across the road has bought one of these. They are Italian Mastiffs and stronger than rottweillers, german shepherds, dobermans etc. Just seeing a photo of them terrifies me. I discovered that a woman and a little boy have been killed by them.

She is only about 5ft and lives alone in a very small house with tiny garden and is just not a reliable person (even her Dad says that). I have been reading up about them and they are fiercely protective, need lots of space and two long walks a day. I know she works long hours so how is that going to work?

I used to cut through past her house but will now have to go the long way round. Too risky if that thing gets out.

Callistemon21 Tue 01-Aug-23 16:16:50

Primrose53

Bijou

even a small dog needs a ten mile walk daily to be healthy. Preferably a run off the lead. The fact that dogs nowadays do not have sufficient exercise and are fed dry biscuit type food means more visits to the vet.

All our dogs have been little terrier crosses. They got two good off lead walks a day plus we are usually about so we leave the patio doors open and they can get in and out to the secure garden all day long. When one of us goes down to see to the horses they always came and would run about while we did our jobs. I don’t think they ever got 10 mile walks though.

We had a small terrier years ago. If we went for a 3 mile walk and he was let off lead I'm sure he ran twice as far as us and twice as fast.

Primrose53 Tue 01-Aug-23 15:45:41

Bijou

even a small dog needs a ten mile walk daily to be healthy. Preferably a run off the lead. The fact that dogs nowadays do not have sufficient exercise and are fed dry biscuit type food means more visits to the vet.

All our dogs have been little terrier crosses. They got two good off lead walks a day plus we are usually about so we leave the patio doors open and they can get in and out to the secure garden all day long. When one of us goes down to see to the horses they always came and would run about while we did our jobs. I don’t think they ever got 10 mile walks though.

Primrose53 Tue 01-Aug-23 15:41:28

grannysyb

We have had three Great Danes, the last two were rescues. We have a smallish garden, but are three minutes walk from Bushy Park. Sadly we now have physical problems which preclude us from having another dog. It sounds as though this woman hasn't had dogs before which might lead to a tragedy. My daughters dog died earlier this year and when they found someone with puppies from the same breed they had to undergo a great deal of questioning before they were allowed to have him.

Good to hear about your breeder but I think these intimidating monster dogs are bred by people who only care about the money they make. They are status symbol dogs.

Blondiescot Tue 01-Aug-23 15:21:06

Bijou

even a small dog needs a ten mile walk daily to be healthy. Preferably a run off the lead. The fact that dogs nowadays do not have sufficient exercise and are fed dry biscuit type food means more visits to the vet.

Not all breeds require that much exercise - for some, that amount of daily walking could be quite dangerous. (Not my Lab - he is walked for miles every day and would do the same again if he could). And not all dogs are fed on kibble either - ours is raw fed and the picture of health.

Bijou Tue 01-Aug-23 15:09:43

even a small dog needs a ten mile walk daily to be healthy. Preferably a run off the lead. The fact that dogs nowadays do not have sufficient exercise and are fed dry biscuit type food means more visits to the vet.

grannysyb Tue 01-Aug-23 14:16:09

We have had three Great Danes, the last two were rescues. We have a smallish garden, but are three minutes walk from Bushy Park. Sadly we now have physical problems which preclude us from having another dog. It sounds as though this woman hasn't had dogs before which might lead to a tragedy. My daughters dog died earlier this year and when they found someone with puppies from the same breed they had to undergo a great deal of questioning before they were allowed to have him.

pascal30 Tue 01-Aug-23 14:13:44

They are enormous dogs...it'll surely be very distressed in a confined space.. not only potentially dangerous but cruel

Jodieb Tue 01-Aug-23 14:05:13

If you did not watch the above video the guy said this dog is not suitable for a 1st time owner.

susz Tue 01-Aug-23 14:02:57

It's not dog licences we need but a licence for owners to own a dog. Reputable breeders and rescue centres vet potential owners very carefully. The majority of dogs can make wonderful family pets with the right responsible owner. I have always had large dogs, Afghan Hounds and Rhodesian Ridgebacks all of which have been great with children and other dogs, complete softies. I have also worked in a rescue centre and have seen first hand what irresponsible owners have done.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 01-Aug-23 13:53:48

Agreed Iam. I’m surprised that there are still no national rules on the number of dogs which may be walked together after the tragic incident some time ago. Just left to local authorities to make regulations - or not.

Dillonsgranma Tue 01-Aug-23 13:51:50

Ring your dog warden and explain your fears. I did that about two dogs in the park Absolutely enormous. Don’t see them any more

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 01-Aug-23 13:51:04

Stella, the woman is not in a position to look after a dog like this. She is far too small to control it, she works long hours and her property is inadequate to meet the dog’s needs. Isn’t it obvious what one would report given this situation? Or should one wait for the inevitable consequences of keeping a very large and powerful dog, bored, in a small property without proper exercise?

Iam64 Tue 01-Aug-23 13:45:27

Stella14, it isn’t responsible to buy any puppy when working full time. More so if living in accommodation unsuitable for the breed

Iam64 Tue 01-Aug-23 13:43:56

As this thread shows, respectable, experienced dog owners are responsible. Dog licences would make no difference - we’d carry on being responsible and too many others won’t.

We need government to introduce tighter regulations for breeding, a complete ban on breeders who haven’t been inspected by the authorities. Clamp down on back street breeders. Proper training for dog wardens followed by powers to prosecute, remove dogs. It would cost money to tighten things but it needs to happen.

Many responsible owners now hire enclosed fields to train and exercise their dogs. My local park is dominated by ‘professional’ dog walkers with 7 off lead dogs.

Stella14 Tue 01-Aug-23 13:42:55

Germanshepherdsmum

She is not able to give the dog what it needs in the way of exercise and that won’t help its temperament. I would report her to the RSPCA in the hope that at least she gets proper advice and may be encouraged to rehome it.

What would you report her for exactly? Deciding to own a legal dog? For heavens sake! I get the OP has concerns, but the woman may be getting a puppy that she fully intends to train (perhaps with professional help) and manage properly 🙄

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 01-Aug-23 13:12:55

When we adopted our current GSD we had to provide references from the charity we adopted our last one from and from our vet, as well as before being allowed to meet the dog giving the usual details of our family circumstances, income, home, height of fencing (minimum requirement of five feet) and whether and for how long the dog would be left alone. That’s what I call taking proper responsibility. We were accepted, others were dismissed as unsuitable.

HousePlantQueen Tue 01-Aug-23 13:08:15

Those of you saying that dog licences should be brought back; why? What difference will it make? We, as responsible dog owners will register our dog, just as we take care of them, exercise them, have microchipped etc. This after buying or preferably rehoming a dog suitable for our lifestyle, and vice versa. Those who breed or buy dogs irresponsibly will not.

Blondiescot Tue 01-Aug-23 13:07:25

Iam64

Blondiescot, we did the same finding a breeder for our lab puppy. They don’t advertise, their reputation means they inky sell to people who had dogs from them previously or people like me. I got a ‘reference’ from a lab breeder/trainer who knew me with me last three dogs .

And that is as it should be.

sodapop Tue 01-Aug-23 13:02:06

I'm not sure dog licences will be that effective, all dogs are supposed to be microchipped which will give their details.
I will be interested to see how the certificate of commitment works out here in France. There is large scale pet abandonment here especially round holiday tines.

Iam64 Tue 01-Aug-23 12:57:57

Blondiescot, we did the same finding a breeder for our lab puppy. They don’t advertise, their reputation means they inky sell to people who had dogs from them previously or people like me. I got a ‘reference’ from a lab breeder/trainer who knew me with me last three dogs .

SquirrelSue Tue 01-Aug-23 12:54:23

Totally irresponsible of the dogs owner to have this type of dog. It will need a large garden to run around in, plus at least 2 hours walk each day. As the woman is at work, its totally unacceptable to leave the dog home alone. Definitely report to housing association. The dog will get bored and out of control within weeks.

Blondiescot Tue 01-Aug-23 12:46:32

Germanshepherdsmum

She777

Straight away you assume the dog will be a vicious beast. Have you ever thought that dogs are a product of their environment like people? If she cares and looks after the dog properly then she nor any neighbours need worry. If however you think she is abusing it to make it mean contact the RSPCA.

This is an extremely large dog being kept in a small house with a tiny garden by a woman who works long hours and is not physically strong enough to control it. Dogs are indeed a product of their environment and this dog is being kept in very unsuitable conditions by someone who doesn’t understand its needs. This will impact badly on the dog’s temperament, with disastrous consequences if it isn’t passed on to a responsible owner.
All our German shepherds have been rescues and we have always been very carefully vetted to ensure that we understand the breed and can care for them properly. None would have been rehomed to this woman.

Couldn't agree more. A small house with a tiny garden is unsuitable for any large breed of dog. An unsuitable environment will only store up problems for the poor animal. While we carefully checked out our breeder before we got our current Lab, she also carried out extensive checks before deciding that we would be suitable owners for one of her pups.

Nannyjaxx Tue 01-Aug-23 12:44:11

I agree this is a tragedy waiting to happen, but who will get the blame? It will be the dog who has been sold/given to an apparently unsuitable owner by a breeder with ££ signs in their eyes.

Cossy Tue 01-Aug-23 12:42:51

Bring back dog licences and breeders who always used to do proper checks on prospective buyers. Sadly, this seems to be an accident waiting to happen. Poor dog and foolish or just naive owner hmm

grandtanteJE65 Tue 01-Aug-23 12:33:41

eazybee

Contact the RSPCA and ask for advice, and also the Police.
Dog licences should be brought back.

Dog licences were, as far as I remember, issued at the post office to anyone who asked for the form, which you filled in and handed over to the clerk.

They were a way of registering dogs over the age of three months, so their owners could be held accountable if the dog did any harm to people or animals.

Now the registering of dogs is done using microchips.

There was no check made as to whether the dog's owner could control the animal or not, so bringing in dog licences again will not solve any problem.

The basic problem here is that anyone who can afford to do so can buy any breed of dog he or she wants.

There is no system in place to check whether those owning any domestic animal are fit to do so and prepared to feed, house, train and exercise the animal correctly.

Nor do there seem to be any form of control with the breeding of animals regarded as pets. No breed of dog is naturally vicious, although some are more aggressive naturally than others, because they and their anciestors have been train for a specific aggressive purpose.

Then there are animals that have some mental defects which may be caused by inbreeding, or have developed due to ill treatment, Such animals should not be used for breeding, but again, no-one is empowered to check whether stud animals are suitable or not.

The only way to solve some of the problems arising from the fact that people who have no idea how to go about training a dog can go and buy one, is to make it compulsory for those acquiring dogs to go to dog-training classes with them, and making legal provision for a relevant authority to remove a dog from an unsuitable owner and re-home it if possible, but otherwise have it put down.

Certainly, the woman mentioned in OP's post sounds an unsuitable person to own a dog of any breed, and the advice given OP to seek advice from the police is sound, but I doubt either they or the RSPCA can act until or unless the dog in question is allowed to run loose, or the owner is reported for maltreating it.