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Lost loves. Should we say goodbye

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Casdon Sat 19-Aug-23 17:28:59

No. Monica it doesn’t count as closure, not in the sense I meant anyway. Many of us probably Google people we have known in the past out of idle curiosity, that’s not the same as having unfinished business with an ex, where the ending of the relationship haunts you for whatever reason (doesn’t have to have been acrimonious). In those circumstances it needs to be an honest conversation, apology if necessary, and gaining a better understanding of why what happened did. It’s difficult of one party hasn’t moved on, but in my case we both had and it was really helpful.
Some people, like yourself from what you’ve said, don’t have this type of skeleton in your closet so I appreciate it’s hard to understand why others do.

M0nica Sat 19-Aug-23 16:46:33

This thread reminded me of someone else I had a relationship with. He had marriage in mind, but I always made it clear that whileI liked him a lot, I did not love him and never would. It ended when the friendly relationship with DH, whom I had known for years and socialised with began to develop.

Any way, as a result of this thread I put his name in google and was taken aback by the result. It was a legal report of a contested criminal conviction that ended in my ex spending a year or two in prison. The full report was behind a pay wall but essentially he had a falling out with a business partner over money he took from a company he was director of.

In retrospect it makes sense because he was a Chartered Accountant and a member of the relevant institute and back in the late 70s/80s when these institutes had directorys of members published in book form every year, I picked a copy up, idly in the library one day and looked him up and was surprised not to find his name. Now I know why! They would have chucked him out after his conviction.

Does that count as 'closure' and the answer to unanswered questions?

Lathyrus Fri 18-Aug-23 23:28:17

I was somebody’s “lost love” and he approached me again when he grew old wanting some kind of closure or “answers”.

Except he didn’t want the answers Id already given him fifty years before. He viewed it through his eyes only snd wanted me to say if only and what a mistake blah blah.

It was horribly embarrassing and he hadn’t changed one bit😱

MayBee70 Fri 18-Aug-23 21:30:34

I’ve just cut myself off completely from someone I had a relationship with after my marriage ended. Even though the relationship was doomed to failure, after a few years we started talking again and it carried on because we have the same sense of humour, like the same sort of programmes etc. I think it hurt me as much as my marriage breaking up when it ended because I felt I could have tried harder with my marriage but I put my heart and soul into this relationship. He had trained as a counsellor so when I first met him I became very emotionally dependent on him. He’d also gone through a painful divorce too so understood how I was feeling.He was also someone who was quite economical with the truth at times ( and still is). I had to go cold turkey when we split up and, just recently, I realised I had to do the same again. Even though we were never going to meet up again I felt as if I was being disloyal to my partner ( which I would never do) even though he knew I still talked to him because we have a shared history and mutual friends.

M0nica Fri 18-Aug-23 20:55:40

There seems to be an assumption that if you did not stay in contact with someone you must have had an acrimonious parting. I didn't in either case, but one was at university in the 1960s and ended before we graduated, although it might have been starting again, but then we didn't have the itnernet, Facebook, other social media or mobile phones to keep in touch, so we graduated and went our separate ways with no way of making contact with each other.

Some thing similar happened with the second one. He moved abroad for a year, but did not return and contact between us gradually petered out.

henetha Fri 18-Aug-23 10:22:27

I find it very difficult to let go. I was divorced years ago but stayed friends with my husband right up to his last illness and was with him when he died.
And my partner who dumped me, we keep in touch with an email every Christmas, just exchanging news etc.

paddyann54 Fri 18-Aug-23 10:14:38

I stayed friends with exes,still am with some.I hasten to add that all but one were non sexual relationships I was married at 21.Good catholic girl here.
The one who was is till a friend not only of me but my OH.I liked the boys/young men I went out with,had similar musical tastes and interests,in most cases worked in the same industry.
Why would I stop being friends with them simply because we didn't want to be partners for life?
Without exception they are all good men ,happily married with families ,the same as my OH and I are .There used to be 3 or 4 of us who would meet for catchups and lunch but that has scaled back since covid.My children are friends with their children so we still get all the news.
Its a small town,even if we hadn't stayed friends we'd bump into each other daily in the town.I liked them as people and still do ,but I wouldn't have wanted to live with any of them .My OH is my soul mate

Georgesgran Fri 18-Aug-23 09:38:56

I think Casdon is spot on.
As a youngster, I lost (what I thought) was the love of my life, due to circumstances beyond our control. In retrospect, he wouldn’t have been ‘right’ for me down the years.
In 1998, I was shocked to find he’d died in his early 40’s. Then by chance, over a light hearted discussion about school pants (!) I discovered the lady working in the Post Office was his sister! She was a late baby, some 15 years younger than him, but I was shattered when she looked at my name and said quietly, ‘our Alan always loved you’.

I wish I could’ve met him, as responsible adults, to find out what had really transpired behind the scenes.

Casdon Thu 17-Aug-23 23:16:42

I think it depends. If it’s an ex from your teenage years and you parted and both moved on quickly, then no I wouldn’t want to meet with them again. If it was a more serious, committed relationship that ended badly, particularly if down to you, then yes, I would want to try to apologise, even many years later because however happily you both may be with somebody else later, neither of you will have forgotten what happened. Not so much to say goodbye though, more to put the past demons to rest. I’ve done this with my most serious ex, and we both felt better for doing it.

BlueBelle Thu 17-Aug-23 23:15:14

Depends but if you’re asking about old lovers or exes no definitely not for me, you’re not with them for a reason and the past is the past

Moonwatcher1904 Thu 17-Aug-23 23:00:24

I was in contact a 2 years ago with an old flame. I met up with him a couple of times and learned a lot of things I wasn't aware of at the time which was in the 60's. He was 8 years older than me. I stopped contact and thought about stuff he said. A lot of things fell into place and realise I've done the right thing by no contact. The words of a song of one of my favourite artists (Phil Collins) always comes to mind. The song is Can't turn back the years...
"No matter how much you think you want or need it, the past has to remain just that, the past".

M0nica Thu 17-Aug-23 22:40:03

The past is the past and I am not sure that trying to say goodbye in this life to those who were once dear, will bring any clarity or closure and might just reveal things we are the worse for knowing.

I have no choice, the two other people I was close to, where we parted in confusion have both died. Both of them were fortunate, as I have been, to meet partners for life, who have been just that, and, as both were well known in their professions, I have read obituaries that make it clear that their marriages were happy.

To have had any contact with them would have muddied waters and caused confusion, for what? For me to get an greater understanding of events that occurred 50 or 60 years ago - and which they may have long forgotten.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 17-Aug-23 22:08:02

A good question. It depends on the circumstances of both parties. It’s a shock to find out that it’s too late to speak to someone you hoped to talk with again one day, but I believe in an afterlife.

FranA Thu 17-Aug-23 21:59:02

Over the years there has been more than one “love of my life”. Should we leave it as it ended or should we acknowledge the people who were once important to us and say goodbye. I don’t have the answer I just feel a need to not leave this world with unanswered questions.