Corbyn now Angela Rayner another reason not to vote Labour 🤔

I don't need help, thank you Dinahmo

Urmstongran

Angela Rayner is passionate and feisty. Nowt wrong with that per se. However as a representative of the UK I’d prefer Yvette Cooper.

Remember Keir Starmer tried to demote her a couple of years back? She ended up not only staying put but with an extra portfolio! He’ll have to try harder next time if he wants to finagle her out of his Cabinet.

She used to flat share with .... (name momentarily escapes me) who was the darling of the Momentum crew. No one was more surprised than Angela I think when she herself won more votes.

I must look up the flat mate. I can picture her, short blonde bobbed hair tucked behind an ear, thick black ‘studious’ frames on her spex but her name escapes me .... back in a minute!

It's Rebeca Long-Bailey who seems to have disappeared, or perhaps it's just that I haven't seen her.

I guess that she'll appeal to some of the snobs on here with her double barrelled name.

Fiesty and straight talker, I like Angela👍

Aha!

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/05/inside-rebecca-long-bailey-and-angela-rayner-flat-share-where-something-is-brewing

Louella12

I quite liked Boris as well, oreo

So no flaw in my thinking at all.

There's no help for you then.

I think it's a shame Andy Burnham isn't available. I think he'd have been a good Labour leader

But whatever one thinks of Keir, he's going to be the next PM

Hopefully he won't sideline the lines of Angela

Angela Rayner is passionate and feisty. Nowt wrong with that per se. However as a representative of the UK I’d prefer Yvette Cooper.

Remember Keir Starmer tried to demote her a couple of years back? She ended up not only staying put but with an extra portfolio! He’ll have to try harder next time if he wants to finagle her out of his Cabinet.

She used to flat share with .... (name momentarily escapes me) who was the darling of the Momentum crew. No one was more surprised than Angela I think when she herself won more votes.

I must look up the flat mate. I can picture her, short blonde bobbed hair tucked behind an ear, thick black ‘studious’ frames on her spex but her name escapes me .... back in a minute!

The snobbery on this thread reminds me of this from Yes Minister.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhZRDoGZg00

I think people are underestimating Starmer. He’s far from weak, and no longer in the circumstances where the Union choice is one of his prime concerns. He will appoint to what he thinks is the best fit. I can see Angela Rayner as Health Minister, I think she’d be good in that role.

Do you really think Starmer has strength of character, Wwm2?

Interesting how we all see things differently

Great response, Oreo!

oreo Raynor was voted into that position by Labour Party members, but when Starmer becomes PM all that ceases and he is free entirely to choose his own cabinet.

Of course there will be pressure from all sides of the Labour Party, but given Starmer’s obvious strength of character evidenced by his work to date I think that you can be reliably content that he will only have who he thinks will aid the Labour government deliver a reforming government.

Louella12

I quite liked Boris as well, oreo

So no flaw in my thinking at all.

Very honest of you😁

Whitewavemark2

Pressure from MPs yes but not as you suggested that Raynor would be a done deal. If it doesn’t suit Starmer it won’t happen.

Starmer has a strength of character that will ensure that he gets what he wants - look at the way he has dealt with anti-semitism in the party as well as party discipline.

Starmer intends to win the election, and become a reforming PM. He will choose only those who will help him in this ambition.

Am not sure that Starmer is a strong character.If he was then
Angela Raynor wouldn’t be in the position she is now.He tried to demote her and caved in to pressure to keep her.

maddyone

Not sure that I’d call that a lot of education but clearly we all have different ideas of what constitutes a lot of education.

Clearly!

No one ever mentions Peter Kylie - I reckon he is a strong contender for a lot of senior posts. He works incredible hard, is always on top of his brief, and makes his Tory equivalent look a fool.

Ilovecheese...'that ship has sailed'...good one.
Training for social services, learning BSL and training as a union rep, do not count as education? Are we having a game of 'spot the snob'?
FYI, that press story, about Raynor flashing her pants in Westminster, was shown to be a fabrication.

Pressure from MPs yes but not as you suggested that Raynor would be a done deal. If it doesn’t suit Starmer it won’t happen.

Starmer has a strength of character that will ensure that he gets what he wants - look at the way he has dealt with anti-semitism in the party as well as party discipline.

Starmer intends to win the election, and become a reforming PM. He will choose only those who will help him in this ambition.

Oreo

I don’t believe I am wrong Whitewavemark2 tho it’s his choice to make as PM I think pressure will be piled on from the left to make Raynor his deputy.

I think a lot of people underestimate how strong minded Keir is. He’ll choose the deputy that he thinks will be best for the party and the country.Mind you, I think Angela’s been brilliant at PMQT when she’s stood in for Starmer.

I think Angela Rayner does not deserve the catty remarks by some posters. What do some of you mean by " a lot of education "?. Angela Rayner may not have gone to private school or university but she is a very hard worker , who does her best to get things done. Why look down your noses at someone being trained in social care, and negotiation , having learned sign language .?Look what we have at present. Most of the Cabinet are in jobs beyond their capability.We have a Home Secretary who is not fit for purpose, and is only there because of politics and and the P.M .' desire to keep the right wing on his side. Snobbery in the extreme.

I quite liked Boris as well, oreo

So no flaw in my thinking at all.

I don’t believe I am wrong Whitewavemark2 tho it’s his choice to make as PM I think pressure will be piled on from the left to make Raynor his deputy.

Oreo

I do have a sinking feeling about Angela Rayner in a top position and bet a lot of people do too.Yvette Cooper is my choice but the very left wing will make sure Rayner gets the job.Starmer tried early on to demote her but it didn’t work.

You are wrong oreo

Starmer May decide not to have a deputy PM. But in any case it will be his choice alone.

AGREE!!

Brilliant somebody normal for a change! Don't be a snob about someone's lifestyle. Far better equipped than the rich idiots running so far. I'd much better someone who knows some sort of normality than someone who eats from a silver spoon. I could say far worse. I hate the rich b******s running this country with no idea of real life.

Since 1957 only 3 Prime Ministers have not been educated at Oxford.
If we take the last 4 you realise how poorly these educated people perform- Liz, Boris, May, Cameron. How on earth does education show you will do a good job? Let's have someone with real life experience instead.