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The return of David Cameron

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LilyoftheValley Mon 13-Nov-23 15:09:00

What a very clever move indeed to bring David Cameron back into the Cabinet. Tories all must be shaking in their boots with a General Election nigh and the shambolic government at present.

David Cameron was respected by a great many people and his return must give a much needed boost to Tory morale. The chap has a backbone.

Ikiesgranma Thu 16-Nov-23 01:28:25

Wheniwasyourage

No he hasn’t or he wouldn’t have mismanaged the referendum in 2016 then taken his ball home when he didn’t like the result. Backbone, eh?

My thoughts exactly. He behaved like a five year old and ran away when it went the wrong way for him.

Julia9TC Wed 15-Nov-23 20:51:20

Have we forgotten the unnecessary, indeed very harmful, austerity meaures he brought in after being elected? which re still in force? These have caused dreadful harm and driven so many into desitution that the UK envoy on human rights says tha te UK government is in breach of international law. He called it the“systematic immiseration of a significant part of the British population”.

Saggi Wed 15-Nov-23 20:01:32

Bringing him back is the nail in the Tories coffin ….hopefully!

Zuki Wed 15-Nov-23 19:05:04

He is just what's needed level headed experience not an annoying personality With all the trouble in the world great choice

jocork Wed 15-Nov-23 17:47:28

Germanshepherdsmum

He had the integrity to resign after the referendum result because, as a committed remainer, he felt that he could not properly lead the country out of the EU. A man of principle. Unlike Johnson who tossed a coin to decide which side to support (i.e. which side he would gain most from supporting).

I agree. Having lived in Witney until 20 years ago he was my MP. Though not myself a Tory supporter, I did respect him and thought he was OK. Immediately prior to him we had a Tory who defected to the Labour party and was then rewarded with a safe labour seat. Prior to that we had Douglas Hurd. He at least brings some experience into the cabinet, though I don't think it will be enough to win them the next election.

Anniel Wed 15-Nov-23 16:39:42

There is no point arguing about this. As usual those who hate Conservatism will remain entrenched in their opinions and those who are in the middle or who vote Conservative are outnumbered. It is plain for all to see that this Government is in trouble. You may not like it but Suella Braverman was correct that unless we got out of the antequated ECHR we had no chance of sending illegal immigrants to Rwanda. It amuses me that those of you who adore the EU fail to see that Germany, Italy and Austria are all working on a similar scheme to ours. Italy has already agreed to send illegal immigrants to Albania. It probably will not work and they will still come to UK! It is pure common sense to ask where these immigrants will be fed, housed, kept medically fit and have children in school without overcrowding our cities and causing all sorts of problems. All we hear is such discussion is “racist” so the left shut people up. I will always willing to discuss these live problems but all we hear is we must Chuck more money at the NHS and build more homes and schools. Both Labour and Tory govt have not done this. I just know the country is in adisunified state. I am really looking forward to Sir Keir arriving on his red horse and solving all our problems. He won’t ofcourse but he cannot do worse than my party which deserves to be defeated.

Jjanl Wed 15-Nov-23 16:39:27

I cant work out if you are serious of just making a tongue in cheek comment. It it's the first then you must be living in a different world to be. David Cameron is spineless. Lost the Brexit vote and threw his dummy out by resigning. Didn't have the guts to stay and salvage the mess he had caused. Disgraceful that Sunak has made him a Lord to justify bringing him back to government. It will all end in tears.

orly Wed 15-Nov-23 16:00:56

I disagree with your OP. David Cameron couldn't bear to comply with the electorate's decision to quit the EU - a referendum he thought he would win but badly miscalculated- and therefore had to leave government. Then there was the massive failure and scandal of the Greensill Capital which he tried to secure government backing from. So I fail to see what good he will bring to Sunak's government - in fact I can only see another nail in the Tories coffin. Sunak deserves every inch of ground he's got coming for the disgraceful way he treated Stella Braverman. We need more straight speaking politicians like her, not more slimy, self serving snakes in the grass like Sunak and Cameron.
(and I'm a lifelong Tory voter - or was!)

yellowfox Wed 15-Nov-23 15:58:30

They are finished anyway!!!!

Susieq62 Wed 15-Nov-23 15:43:55

No backbone at all, did not stand up to Farage and his bullying, jumped ship when he lost the referendum. I have no time or respect for him and I am delighted that the Tory party is in such disarray. Our civil service departments must be tearing their hair out with all of the ministerial changes. Consistency has flown out of the window .

LizzieDrip Wed 15-Nov-23 15:42:20

Don’t you think that given what is happening in Ukraine and the Middle East someone of known standing on the international stage is needed for this post? This is a bold and visionary move by Sunak

I’m sorry but have you seen Cameron’s past record on foreign policy!!!

Nannina Wed 15-Nov-23 15:04:58

As a member of the Lords David Cameron’s actions or statements cannot be scrutinised by other MPs as he is not allowed in the House of Commons- I don’t call that democracy. He will be receiving his PM pension, Foreign Secretary salary and £300+ a day for popping in the Lords- when public finances are at rock bottom we now have to pay an already rich man 3 salaries . I have a feeling Dodgy Dave will be controlling things behind the scenes with puppet Sunak dancing to his tune.

Lizzie44 Wed 15-Nov-23 15:04:26

Cameron's appointment smacks of desperation. Not just shuffling the deckchairs on the Titanic but digging out a frayed and shabby one from the back of the cupboard and hoping no one will remember how it collapsed on us last time. Many of us have not forgotten or forgiven the Brexit shambles, or DC's lobbying scandals, or his role as the architect of austerity. And then of course there is the nonsense about him having to be a Lord to get him into Cabinet - so very quaint and British.

Retired65 Wed 15-Nov-23 15:03:41

I just could not believe that Cameron is back! He ran away after the Brexit vote. If the Conservatives think that bringing Cameron back will help them win the next general election they should think again.

Forlornhope Wed 15-Nov-23 15:03:37

Has anyone seen a picture of him taken in the last 48 hours that doesn’t show him smugly, smirking? Not a good look on a ‘respected statesman’.

Bazza Wed 15-Nov-23 14:48:21

At least his trousers fit.

polly123 Wed 15-Nov-23 14:32:50

He did a disappearing act when Brexit didn't work out as he expected. Just another 'posh boy' with money and status on his mind.

DrWatson Wed 15-Nov-23 13:56:46

For Jaxie - and others -- "over-privileged posh boy" - well, generally a mistake to get too enthusiastic about politicos of any badge. They invariably have a pot of incompetence and corruption to dip into.

I'm no special fan of any party, but I suggest you look at Starmer's history for 'posh boy', and as he's presently being advised by Mandelson, who's now a Lord having been suspended so often by the Labour Party that I lost count, don't hold your hopes too high on that front?

Re Cameron being a Lord, well, other Foreign Secs have been just that, makes little difference. You could look at the blinding incompetence of Major and Heseltine, tried to bankrupt the country on 'Black Wednesday' (or 'ERM fiasco') - now a Sir and Lord respectively. And the Mandelson I mentioned above, now a Lord, not sure where of, somewhere called Greasy Pole perhaps?

At least Cameron, if he's Foreign Sec, should find it easier to visit his offshore interests? And for those hoping to get an EU membership back, well, if you look at the posher papers that aren't dominated by 'Celebrity' twaddle, various EU interests have been muttering about snuggling back together a bit, as they've realised their own interests are being damaged by the split. Cameron is a friendly face to them - though they might have conceded a little more when he did the rounds in 2015 and if so, we might never have left?

Nannan2 Wed 15-Nov-23 13:56:18

I would suggest that the conservatives move on.....

DrWatson Wed 15-Nov-23 13:43:16

For Winterwhite, the "inviolable will" was actually stated by Dave & George (not the wretched Mrs May) in that glossy brochure they sent to every UK household, strongly recommending a 'Remain' vote, and to be careful where you put that 'X', as it would be a BINDING vote.

He/they were so confident the country would vote 'Remain' that they didn't have the simple commonsense to say that, for such a momentous decision, it wouldn't be enough to have a narrow win for 'Leave', it would need to be a chunky majority, 15% or so (57.5 to 42.5 or better). Had they done that, the country would be in a different place.

I don't blame him/them for having that referendum (UKIP had gained massive popularity, winning councils and the like) -- but that simple failure to state a minimum amount of opinion for such a huge change was just daft.

ruthiek Wed 15-Nov-23 13:33:17

I honestly think if the referendum was ran again we would stay so it makes d sense to perhaps build closer ties with Europe

Dianeliza Wed 15-Nov-23 12:40:57

Cameron and Johnson are both hypocrites, and out for themselves. They have ruined this country.

red1 Wed 15-Nov-23 12:37:39

pathetic, what about the fraud with his hedge funds?!
the govt must be so arrogant that they think we do not have a memory! What about the bedroom tax, the demonisation of the poor, the treatment of the disabled, atos sickness suicides, need i go on? will they bring osbourne back in the limelight? a pair worse than thatcher.

Airdrieonian Wed 15-Nov-23 12:32:59

David Cameron must have acquired the backbone when he left parliament, it certainly wasn't obvious when he was PM. No backbone there, infact not much of anything, bland. Created the problems then left.

LizzieDrip Wed 15-Nov-23 12:28:33

I am livid at Cameron’s return! His damage to this country goes back much further than the Brexit debacle. He was the architect of austerity which began the destruction of our public services. Austerity has been shown, by economic commentators, to have been an unnecessary political choice, aimed solely at cutting spending for public sector services - a long-held Tory ideology. Cameron began the decimation of this country; spit his dummy out when his Brexit plan didn’t work; and now he’s been undemocratically reinstated in a plot by Sunak to make the Tories look a bit more electable after the Braverman shambles. Shame on them!