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The return of David Cameron

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LilyoftheValley Mon 13-Nov-23 15:09:00

What a very clever move indeed to bring David Cameron back into the Cabinet. Tories all must be shaking in their boots with a General Election nigh and the shambolic government at present.

David Cameron was respected by a great many people and his return must give a much needed boost to Tory morale. The chap has a backbone.

Wheniwasyourage Mon 13-Nov-23 15:10:56

No he hasn’t or he wouldn’t have mismanaged the referendum in 2016 then taken his ball home when he didn’t like the result. Backbone, eh?

Smileless2012 Mon 13-Nov-23 15:12:13

hmmnot enough of a backbone to stay on as PM after the referendum result wasn't what he expected.

Louella12 Mon 13-Nov-23 15:15:18

No I agree. No backbone. Ran off when Brexit won
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Germanshepherdsmum Mon 13-Nov-23 15:18:36

He had the integrity to resign after the referendum result because, as a committed remainer, he felt that he could not properly lead the country out of the EU. A man of principle. Unlike Johnson who tossed a coin to decide which side to support (i.e. which side he would gain most from supporting).

vegansrock Mon 13-Nov-23 15:20:56

I agree he appears more sincere and seemingly rational than most of the cabinet and will bring back some of the moderates who dislike the hard right stance of the party since 2019.

Alison333 Mon 13-Nov-23 15:21:42

I could not believe it when I heard of Cameron's return. He presided over the Brexit mess and then ran for the hills. This is all turning into a comedy show!

Romola Mon 13-Nov-23 15:23:38

He was traumatised by losing the Remain campaign, which was in fact poorly conceived in the arrogant assumption that he would win.
This is now a humbler man.
I hope that he will be able to reforge links with the EU. Sunak was a Leaver, but perhaps he now realises what a mistake that was for the UK, in spite of his Indian family.
We shall eventually rejoin the EU, but not in my lifetime, regrettably,

LilyoftheValley Mon 13-Nov-23 15:24:16

WhenIwasyourage/Smileless - not at all. He did the honourable thing and fell on his sword!!

Smileless2012 Mon 13-Nov-23 15:28:03

He assured the country he would remain in his post regardless of the result LilyoftheValley and within hours of the result being known, he resigned. That to me is not the act of falling on one's sword, more like spitting his dummy out.

Ziplok Mon 13-Nov-23 15:31:20

I’m afraid I don’t agree. He messed up the remain campaign big time, left an unholy mess behind him when he took his ball home and resigned and which we are still trying to recover from now.

MaizieD Mon 13-Nov-23 15:33:33

Smileless2012

He assured the country he would remain in his post regardless of the result LilyoftheValley and within hours of the result being known, he resigned. That to me is not the act of falling on one's sword, more like spitting his dummy out.

Absolutely, Smileless2012

There are some short memories on here.

Joseann Mon 13-Nov-23 15:36:34

Never mind inviting him back, what possesses the man himself to want to return? He has a nice comfortable life with his family. Madness!

CvD66 Mon 13-Nov-23 15:37:16

What an insult to 348 (excl Sunak & Braverman) Tory MPs that the PM does not consider any of them are ‘good enough’ to serve as Foreign Secretary. As many have commented, serving from the Lords, Cameron won't be subject to MPs questions. Just how weak/scared/stupid is the current PM?

Ziplok Mon 13-Nov-23 15:37:48

Very true, Smileless2012. I can’t abide the man.

BlueBelle Mon 13-Nov-23 15:42:35

No backbone at all he ran off to make more money elsewhere after he effed up Brexit …..a weasel

Fleurpepper Mon 13-Nov-23 15:46:26

Ziplok

I’m afraid I don’t agree. He messed up the remain campaign big time, left an unholy mess behind him when he took his ball home and resigned and which we are still trying to recover from now.

How could he possibly help with addressing the disaster of Brexit?

Casdon Mon 13-Nov-23 15:46:35

Politics Joe take on Cameron 4 years ago. I’m not sure he’s rehabilitated himself.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atku5LWhjog
Not a watch for the faint hearted or easily offended, but unerringly hits the nail on the head.

pascal30 Mon 13-Nov-23 15:48:21

No wonder he reneged on his former proposals to reform the House of Lords!!

Cadenza123 Mon 13-Nov-23 15:51:47

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67401551 The same David Cameron? Excellent appointment.

TerriBull Mon 13-Nov-23 15:59:53

Oh just the worst of lightweights, the PM who said he was going to put a stop to lobbying and then becomes one himself for a big fat payout. Now we learn he's Lord Cameron, I was rather hoping he'd have to become an MP again stand in a designated constituency and lose the seat. No such luck!

winterwhite Mon 13-Nov-23 16:08:16

I agree with the falling on his sword team rather than the taking to the hills brigade.

The real damage was allowing the 'advisory' referendum with its tight result to become the inviolable will of the people. That was the fault of Teresa May not David Cameron.

I believe that as well as experience DC has strong diplomatic skills and the ability to be a unifier.

Are there no precedents for Secretaries of State sitting in the Lords? Rosebery, Salisbury, Douglas Home...?

All in all I think it a shrewd move - not that I want the tories to win the next election.🤦🏼‍♀️

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 13-Nov-23 16:20:05

CvD66

What an insult to 348 (excl Sunak & Braverman) Tory MPs that the PM does not consider any of them are ‘good enough’ to serve as Foreign Secretary. As many have commented, serving from the Lords, Cameron won't be subject to MPs questions. Just how weak/scared/stupid is the current PM?

Don’t you think that given what is happening in Ukraine and the Middle East someone of known standing on the international stage is needed for this post? This is a bold and visionary move by Sunak and something he has obviously been considering for some time, whilst people were criticising him as weak for not sacking Braverman. It wouldn’t have happened overnight. Sunak is not weak, scared or stupid.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 13-Nov-23 16:29:24

He has been implicated in a financial scandal and lobbying scandal.

So with the years of unnecessary austerity, the shambles of Brexit and scandal.

No it isn’t a good move.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 13-Nov-23 16:31:23

So who else would you suggest who has the experience and diplomatic skills to deal with what’s happening in the world?