Endometriosis charity appoints trans woman as the new head of the organisation.

It’s the same argument that is put forward for using terms like ‘birth givers’ instead of ‘mothers’. Women should move aside as a small minority want to deny reality and colonise our spaces.

Whether it’s maternity wards, the WI, gynae charities or professional sport, it is very clear that the trans ideology excludes women. Yes, all mothers are women, but the ones ‘identifying’ as men still get priority in this ideology, and the rest of us are supposed to put up and shut up.

Glorianny

As far as endometriosis is concerned might there not be some transmen who suffer? If so surely "people " is the correct pronoun. Or are some insisting that transmen must accept being described by the word women?
Isn't that actually endangering transmen who may not seek treatment because of this.

Or are some insisting that transmen must accept being described by the word women?

But you are insisting that women must accept losing their identity and accept being described by the word "people".

And transmen are a minority.

Glorianny

As far as endometriosis is concerned might there not be some transmen who suffer? If so surely "people " is the correct pronoun. Or are some insisting that transmen must accept being described by the word women?
Isn't that actually endangering transmen who may not seek treatment because of this.

Surely "people" is a noun not a pronoun?

Of course there may be the odd transman who suffers from endometriosis, by virtue of the fact of being female. Why are you comfortable with the vast majority having to accept being described as people to satisfy the vanity of a very few? Transmen know they're still female, and if they don't and believe the fantasy they've changed sex like India Willoughby then they're unlikely to seek help for a female condition anyway.

If there are 'people 'who would refuse to seek treatment because they would be identified correctly as a woman, then that is their choice.

As far as endometriosis is concerned might there not be some transmen who suffer? If so surely "people " is the correct pronoun. Or are some insisting that transmen must accept being described by the word women?
Isn't that actually endangering transmen who may not seek treatment because of this.

Age doesn't exist as a biological reality?
Perhaps in space but on Earth it certainly does. It is a fact.

Perhaps Steph comes from a different planet.

Doodledog

I was amused by the way that when Steph wanted to have a dig at the sex of gynaecologists and (some) midwives they were referred to as 'so called males'. So don't call them 'male' as that would be transphobic, but refer to their sex anyway.

I wonder - what is a "so-called male"?

Could they be 'so-called' because, well - that is what they are, ie, men?

I presume "women" are also - "so-called" going by SR's 'logic'. But that presents a bit of a problem because if SR identifies as a woman and women are only 'so-called' women... what is SR identifying with in effect?

However, you have to realise that SR believes that 'age, as well as men and women, are all social constructs, and don't actually exist as a biological reality. Which means that SR is identifying with a social-construct of women.

It's all a nonsense isn't it?

I was amused by the way that when Steph wanted to have a dig at the sex of gynaecologists and (some) midwives they were referred to as 'so called males'. So don't call them 'male' as that would be transphobic, but refer to their sex anyway.

Steph R’s aggressive attitude of denying natal women does nothing for the majority of the trans community who want to just get on with their lives, happy in their new persona.

It was Emma Barnet’s job to hold a robust interview and that is exactly what she did. Well done Emma, so good to have you back.

What do you think are the chances of it blowing over?

Fairly high, I should think. Another spin on the 'controversy' is that a trans woman has volunteered for a role in a local charity.

It's a TRA publicity stunt, IMO. Tomorrow's chip wrapper.

Grantanow

The charity's focus should be on securing good treatment for the disease. Making a controversial appointment to its top job may take the focus off that when seeking funding or making public presentations and attract unwanted media attention. But it may all blow over.

If Steph can deflect media attention away from gender-identity matters and insist that the focus is on the charity and its purpose alone, then we might be on to a winner. But I think it will have to be acknowledged that it affects women - and that seems to be a problem for Steph.

Sort of like anyone coming in to do an important job and advising that they do not want to discuss their private life, just get on with the job they've been elected to do. A CEO's remit is quite clear.

What do you think are the chances of it blowing over?

Rosie51

AmberSpyglass

Steph isn’t a man, she’s a woman.

This is a direct quote from one of Steph's tweets Many gynaecologists are men - I don't see any headlines about them. Some midwives are men - I don't see any headlines about them either. And how about the male paramedic who may deal with miscarriage or prolapse - there are no headlines about them either. Am I wrong?

No, I am not.

It would appear Steph is identifying in the same group as the men referred to in the quote. Freudian slip, or a bit of honesty?

Good point!

Steph has previously said that men and women - and even "age" are 'social constructs' - which seems to be the way some in the trans community bat away Genetics (genetic scientists... "pah", what do they know!) - but at least now acknowledges that men exist as a separate entity.

All we have to do now is persuade Steph that there is a genetic group called "women" - as opposed to "people". Considering these genetic differences affect disease development, I think this is quite important!

Steph is a transgender woman - unless he's managed to change every single cell in his body. That doesn't mean he can't make a good CEO of a charity devoted to endometriosis - the duties of a CEO are not sex-based. But, as he appears to refuse to acknowledge women as sufferers, only 'people'... then we're not off to a very good start.

Umpteen anomalies surrounding natal women/transwomen language that doesn't seem to pertain to men/transmen. The shying away of using the word "woman" I believe the preferred description is "female assigned at birth". On the other hand men remain men For many, our perception is that this is a one way traffic and evidence shows those who challenge it, are met with out and out aggression.

The charity's focus should be on securing good treatment for the disease. Making a controversial appointment to its top job may take the focus off that when seeking funding or making public presentations and attract unwanted media attention. But it may all blow over.

AmberSpyglass

Steph isn’t a man, she’s a woman.

This is a direct quote from one of Steph's tweets Many gynaecologists are men - I don't see any headlines about them. Some midwives are men - I don't see any headlines about them either. And how about the male paramedic who may deal with miscarriage or prolapse - there are no headlines about them either. Am I wrong?

No, I am not.

It would appear Steph is identifying in the same group as the men referred to in the quote. Freudian slip, or a bit of honesty?

Galaxy

I dont think anyone believes that really. It's why there has been a considerable debate about a man heading up this charity.

Steph Richardson would not use the word "woman". Apparently, people suffer from the condition.

And now we've just been told on here that Steph Richardson is a woman.

So, to sum up. Only transwomen can be women. Biological women who suffer from endometriosis - are people, not women, because Richardson refuses to acknowledge them as such.

I dont think anyone believes that really. It's why there has been a considerable debate about a man heading up this charity.

I don’t lie either. She’s a woman.

Sorry amber I try as hard as possible not to lie, having seen the damage it does, so I cant agree.

Steph isn’t a man, she’s a woman.

Thanks doodle, dickens Oreo, callistemon NanKate and everyone else for not being beyond speech - as I am

NanKate

AmberSpyGlass you say ‘I’m sure she’ll do an excellent job.’

I suggest you listen to Woman’s Hour on Wednesday Steph Richards was far from articulate and the CEO wasn’t any better. Emma Barnett gave a very professional interview imo.

The sooner she is removed the better, but I suspect she’ll hang on denying women a name.

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It’s yet another charity just dying to show off their wokeness.
Another man chosen over a woman for a job.

spabbygirl

so what? If he has compassion & commitment that's what matters

Has he?
Nothing indicates that he has so far.

spabbygirl

so what? If he has compassion & commitment that's what matters

I believe that his compassion and commitment are what we are debating.

so what? If he has compassion & commitment that's what matters