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NanKate Thu 23-Nov-23 10:00:37

I moved to the Nationwide after Barclays closed.

I have a debit card with them and earlier this year I noticed an odd payment on my weekly mini statement I have posted onto my mobile phone. On contacting the fraud department I queried this payment which was to a sports company I had never heard of. They agreed I had been hacked stopped my card, reimbursed me and 5 days later issued me with a new one.

DH suggested I only used it to take money from my account and use our credit card for other purchases. The NW said to start my new card I had to use it in a shop to initialise it, which I did just the once.

On checking my mini statement yesterday I saw two odd payments which I knew I hadn’t made. So back again to the fraud department who said the payments were to a US company which I had never heard of. The money was reimbursed to me by NW. I asked how anyone could have got my details when I had only used the card once in a shop and the rest in NW. I’m not sure I understood their answer but they have assured me my new card will not be linked to my old card as has happened here.

If you have weekly/monthly statements can I encourage you to check them regularly. Finally I was advised these scammers start with small amounts so that it is easy for you to miss the fraudulent payment.

TheatreLover Thu 30-Nov-23 14:34:07

welbeck

i do not use my main current account for debit card purchases.
i have a separate one with a different bank, with limited funds, for debit card purchases.
i use my main account for paying utility bills etc via telephone automated payment system.
it works for me.
i haven't had a credit cards for several years.

I do the same, i.e. using a bank account with limited funds, for debit card payments. This account is held with a separate bank from accounts which hold larger amounts. My banking app alerts me when money is deposited or payments made. I also have not used a credit card for years. Thank you for the information on Chargeback.

welbeck Thu 30-Nov-23 13:10:19

i do not use my main current account for debit card purchases.
i have a separate one with a different bank, with limited funds, for debit card purchases.
i use my main account for paying utility bills etc via telephone automated payment system.
it works for me.
i haven't had a credit cards for several years.

OldFrill Thu 30-Nov-23 11:13:22

Very amused when I was paying a restaurant bill, the inexperienced waiter managed to pay it himself through with phone in his pocket. His face was a picture as he immediately realised what had happened. I use contactless on my phone but am rather more careful about it.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 30-Nov-23 10:52:40

And risk your account being emptied. I have had my credit card compromised a couple of times - fraudulent transactions cancelled, money refunded and card replaced. My card details had obviously been stolen. Now if that had been my debit card, my current account could have been emptied. Is it worth taking that risk? No.

Shinamae Thu 30-Nov-23 10:18:11

welbeck

so better to use a debit card for items costing under £100, as the credit card protection only applies to items/contracts for £100+.
this does include eg if you paid £20 deposit with credit card towards a hat costing £200, paying the balance by other means.
but if it's the kind of hat i might order, ie, costing about £20 total, i'm safer paying with debit card.

Thanks for that information Wellbeck…🤓

welbeck Wed 29-Nov-23 18:23:38

so better to use a debit card for items costing under £100, as the credit card protection only applies to items/contracts for £100+.
this does include eg if you paid £20 deposit with credit card towards a hat costing £200, paying the balance by other means.
but if it's the kind of hat i might order, ie, costing about £20 total, i'm safer paying with debit card.

welbeck Wed 29-Nov-23 18:17:26

information re debit cards' use protection, see moneyhelper.org.uk

Debit cards and chargeback
Debit card payments and purchases aren't covered by section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act. But if you don’t get something you have paid for by debit card, and the firm is refusing to refund you, you can ask your bank to ‘reverse the transaction' and get your money back via chargeback.

Chargeback isn’t legal protection like section 75, which applies in the UK. It’s an agreement Visa, Mastercard and American Express have signed up to. The scheme enables you to claim a refund from your card provider if a purchase doesn’t arrive or is faulty.

Here’s how to get your money back via chargeback:

Contact the company and try to get a refund first before making a claim.
You must make a claim within 120 days of making the purchase. If the purchase is for something in the future, for example, tickets to an event, the 120-day limit starts from the day the event would have happened.
The card company will try to claim your money back from the company you’ve paid, by reversing the transaction.

Be aware that claims can take some time to process because the card company must get the money refunded before it can pass it onto you.

Chargeback works for debit, credit or prepaid cards.

Dickens Wed 29-Nov-23 18:01:28

Re: Paying in a Cheque

Thanks for the information Ladies - I will examine his mobile banking App (He's is not tech savvy).

Haven't seen a cheque for many years!

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 29-Nov-23 17:06:56

No problem. I have never, ever, used my debit card except for withdrawing cash. First Direct will be able to send you a new PIN for your credit card - they might want to send you a new credit card at the same time and cancel the old one. You can change your PIN to something easy for you to remember at a cash point. The other benefit of using a credit card is if you have a problem with something you buy with it and the retailer is awkward the credit card company will often give you a refund. Keep safe! So many companies we buy from online store our card details even if we haven’t authorised them to, and their systems can be hacked.

Shinamae Wed 29-Nov-23 16:59:04

Germanshepherdsmum

Not necessarily shinamae. And you might have a long argument with them. That’s why a credit card is so much safer - if your credit card details are stolen the card company are generally very quick to refund you and the fraudsters won’t have been able to access your bank account, leaving you penniless, assuming you haven’t enabled them to get hold of your PIN. Using your debit card for anything other than withdrawing cash exposes you to fraud every time.

I don’t even know the pin number for my credit card, but I suspect my bank would give me that if I asked them then just use it the same as I use a debit card?
My credit card is with First direct as well so it probably won’t be a problem. I will ring them and see. Thank you for your advice.

Marydoll Wed 29-Nov-23 16:54:14

When there was fraud on our debit card, the bank stopped our card immediately. We were going on holiday abroad the next day. What made it worse was that it was the weekend a new card took a week to come and we had no access to cash
My daughter's wedding was cancelled on the first day of Lockdown. Thankfully the credit card company refunded most of the cash, when the hotel went bankrupt.
A bank wouldn't have done so, if we had used a debit card.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 29-Nov-23 16:28:03

Not necessarily shinamae. And you might have a long argument with them. That’s why a credit card is so much safer - if your credit card details are stolen the card company are generally very quick to refund you and the fraudsters won’t have been able to access your bank account, leaving you penniless, assuming you haven’t enabled them to get hold of your PIN. Using your debit card for anything other than withdrawing cash exposes you to fraud every time.

Dickens Wed 29-Nov-23 16:23:07

NotAGran55

Dickens you can deposit up to £2K a day by cheque on the HSBC app.

You can also pay in cheques at the Post Office if that is easier for you?

... ah, the Post Office!

We had one of those as well in town. The CO-OP took on the franchise.

... it didn't 'work out' and no-one knows why.

So we've lost the PO as well.

However, the nearest one is nearer than the nearest Bank - so I'll use that

Thanks!

NotAGran55 Wed 29-Nov-23 16:02:13

Dickens you can deposit up to £2K a day by cheque on the HSBC app.

You can also pay in cheques at the Post Office if that is easier for you?

Shinamae Wed 29-Nov-23 16:01:53

Shinamae

Germanshepherdsmum

But your account could have been emptied overnight - what would you do?

I might be wrong, and obviously I’m not as educated about this subject as you are GSM, but I think my bank would compensate me, would they not?

I change my passcode frequently as well

Shinamae Wed 29-Nov-23 16:01:04

Germanshepherdsmum

But your account could have been emptied overnight - what would you do?

I might be wrong, and obviously I’m not as educated about this subject as you are GSM, but I think my bank would compensate me, would they not?

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 29-Nov-23 15:59:12

But your account could have been emptied overnight - what would you do?

Shinamae Wed 29-Nov-23 15:56:07

Germanshepherdsmum

Even after reading the thread?

Yes, I have had no problems and check my bank statement daily..

Shinamae Wed 29-Nov-23 15:55:03

Dickens

Can anyone tell me if it's possible to pay in a cheque without actually going to the bank - by post?

And without a paying-in slip.

My OH has been given a cheque from a company. The bank is 20 miles away, he doesn't drive, is disabled, so a friend has to take us - and parking is at a premium anyway.

With my First direct account, you can just take a photograph of the check and it puts it in…

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 29-Nov-23 15:28:22

I haven’t had a cheque for ages but I think you can do it on your phone. Certainly at a PO (don’t know if they can supply paying in slips).

Dickens Wed 29-Nov-23 15:21:05

Can anyone tell me if it's possible to pay in a cheque without actually going to the bank - by post?

And without a paying-in slip.

My OH has been given a cheque from a company. The bank is 20 miles away, he doesn't drive, is disabled, so a friend has to take us - and parking is at a premium anyway.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 29-Nov-23 14:46:26

Even after reading the thread?

Shinamae Wed 29-Nov-23 14:43:53

I use my debit card for everything, including drawing cash out once a week, but my credit card has only ever been used for my Amazon bill…

DrWatson Mon 27-Nov-23 19:22:11

Lots of comments re don't use a debit card. I have 2 cards, one main one, on the main a/c, that doesn't get used for any online or physical in-shop purchases, only a couple of direct debits.

I have a secondary a/c, that one with its card does get used for any online etc purchases, BUT I only transfer in enough funds from the main a/c for those purposes.

Someone else mentioned Spam emails -- you SHOULD try and remember to check that folder every couple of days. The software to filter out those 'spam' emails is extremely fallible, bordering on abysmal. I've had emails from my sister plonked into Spam, also from the local vicar, all sorts of genuine ones can get selected. Sure, probably 80%+ of Spam emails really ARE Spam, but that leaves quite a few that aren't!

I'm with Virgin Media, (They all have the same issues), and their GENUINE emails have sometimes been selected as Spam. Lots of the spoof emails that come through pretending that my a/c has been compromised do NOT get selected for Spam! Depressing isn't it!

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 27-Nov-23 09:25:40

Of course you do, and I have always done that by withdrawing cash.