What do you think of Mary Earps being SPOTY?

BBC left wing and woke. Not particularly in my opinion.
Viewing figures are falling generally as modern tastes change.
We are lucky to have the BBC. It's envied in some countries.

Juggernaut Please don't imply, however vaguely, that I think one cell of Joey Barton's body is "honourable".
Do you consider that all male offenders....wife beaters, rapists, sexual predators, paedophiles, murders etc are male but not men? Does the same criteria apply to the females and the category women?

If you read my post I did say Joey Barton is 100% responsible for his actions and his words. I'd have thought that was clear enough

Among the many complaints I saw on line about a female footballer winning was a choice one from a man moaning that she won because women voted! So that puts us in our place! Presumably we should go back to the days when, no matter what what the subject was, we just voted the way our husbands told us to.

Whilst the BBC is popular in terms of viewers compared to say ITV the decline in viewing figures has been consistent over the last few years and I cant imagine that changing.

Iam64

Surely the best candidate should win, rather than share the award between the northern Irish, Welsh, Scots and England

This notion of a ‘woke ‘ left wing bbc is a strange one.

I live in Wales but would have voted for Mary Earps or any of the Lionesses because I think they're all an inspiration to young girls throughout the country and encourage them to get out and participate in sport.
They are far better behaved than the men, too.

@Rosie51,
In my world, Joey Barton may well be 'male' but as far as being a 'man', he's sadly lacking!
He's not being judged by association either, he made several ridiculous claims in 2005, 'my brother wasn't even there at the time', my brother would never do such a thing', 'my brother attempted to stop the attack', 'my brother is completely innocent' etc.
None of his claims were true, and the entire family were already well known to the Police, and had been troublemakers, thieves and thugs for many years before their crimes escalated to murder.
There is nothing at all honourable about Joey Barton!

I voted for her. Love Mary! As for that Barton bloke, he’s just a jealous misogynist, courting publicity for his failed ‘career’.

I wouldn’t have voted for her because I’m not interested in football. But the majority are and voted for her and she won and I’m happy with that. As for Joey Barton, never heard of the odious little man!

Surely the best candidate should win, rather than share the award between the northern Irish, Welsh, Scots and England

This notion of a ‘woke ‘ left wing bbc is a strange one.

susz

Not a fan of the programme, BBC is very left-wing and 'woke', but Mary was the public vote and as far as I understand a worthy winner.

BBC is very left-wing and 'woke

What, in particular, stands out to you in its content that makes you say it's very left wing?

I'm genuinely curious- because there appear to be many people who feel it is rather cautious of running foul of the government of the day, and sticks to a somewhat 'bland' middle-of-the-road presentation.

I’ve nothing against Mary Earps who won the public vote fair and square, but it seems a bit limited to have two England women football players as winners in successive years. Not much for Welsh, Scottish or N Irish viewers to cheer for. BBC is supposed to a national broadcaster.

Not a fan of the programme, BBC is very left-wing and 'woke', but Mary was the public vote and as far as I understand a worthy winner.

British Women's football club was founded in the 1890s

Girls played football in Scotland since I was at school in 70's! As a PE teacher I coached girls footie until I retired 8 years ago.

Well done Chardy, for that measured response to BridgetPark's ludicrous rant about the BBC and sport (copied here >>> "Is no one else sick of the self-indulgent nature of these awards, promoted and run in totality by the BBC, for the BBC, in such a self-congratulatory manner, and the fact the the licence payer is funding the whole thing? There are a lot of people who have no real interest in sport, and I honestly think, if it wasn't run and promoted by the BBC, nobody would really miss it. Surely if we are still having to pay a licence fee for the BBC, they should be ploughing the money into good quality programmes.".

That's one of the daftest comments I recall on this site, as logically then, the BBC should put out NOTHING, as even the most popular shows have viewing figures that are a minority of the overall population (and that would apply to ALL broadcasters of course).

BBC is still by far the most popular TV, viewing figures on average double that of ITV, who are miles ahead of anyone else. Channels like Sky and Netflix have numbers so small you could easily miss them!

Soc media regularly gets comments about say, Strictly ("I don't like it, nobody I know likes it, so why is it on . . . .blah blah, BBC, waste of money, blah blah"). This totally overlooks that BBC (& all channels) are trying to put on a balanced set of output to appeal to a range of tastes. Oh, and Strictly, on the numbers, is one of the most popular shows on offer.

I'm advised that sport on the BBC, if you added up ALL the assorted hours of TV, and radio, would be a tiny subset of the hours they put out. Oh, and apparently the "Question of Sport" show has just been shelved, after umpteen years, due to falling viewer numbers, so they do take notice?

Any list of fav shows that anyone put on here could likely be criticised because parts of it are not to everyone's taste, life's like that! I quite like the "Sewing Bee" show (despite the most recent presenter!!) but I'm sure plenty of non-sewers wouldn't be keen? I've even seen people moaning about David Attenborough, as the shows sometimes have "insects nobody cares about" or "places nobody will go". Ye gods . . .

I voted for her, she is inspirational for all young girls who play football, which wasn’t allowed in our day. I love to watch my young grand daughters play.

I'm not a sports fan at all so I don't really have a say, but, rather her then some idiot bloke pretending to be a woman

Juggernaut Joey Barton is a man, you can't arbitrarily exclude him and others like him from their sex class. He is a vile, odious thug, but I don't agree with guilt by association. He is not responsible for the actions of his brother or his brother's friend, but is totally responsible for his own actions and words.

Wouldn't have been my choice. I like her but...more deserving of that title like KJT ifyou want a woman.

I think Mary Earps fully deserved her award, and her dress showed off her wonderfully toned body, it looked great on her!
However, I wish people on here would stop describing Joey Barton as a 'man', he's a slimy, sexist, lying, thieving piece of garbage.
Does anyone remember the 2005 murder of Anthony Walker in Huyton, Liverpool?
Anthony had been babysitting his nephew, along with his girlfriend and cousin, and afterwards, walked to a nearby bus stop to go home.
Unfortunately, at the bus stop they encountered Michael Barton (brother of the odious Joey) and another youth, Paul Taylor. Michael Barton threatened to stab Anthony and his cousin, just because he felt like doing it.
Anthony, along with his girlfriend and cousin walked to another bus stop, but were followed by Michael Barton and Paul Taylor in a car. Barton and Taylor then attacked Anthony, and Taylor plunged an ice axe into Anthony's head, twice!
Anthony died in hospital the following morning, by which time Barton and Taylor had fled to Amsterdam to evade justice.
Joey Barton demanded that his brother should return home voluntarily to face trial, but that was all a sham. He claimed that his brother was completely innocent, and to this day, describes the murder as 'just a scrap between lads'!
Why were Anthony, his girlfriend and cousin set upon by murderous thugs? They committed the crime of being decent, well brought up young people, who happened to be black!
I find it astonishing that anyone can possibly describe Joey Barton and his ilk as 'men'!

No probs with Earps winning, though her outfit on the show resembled something Cher might have (just) put on as some sort of 'hooker' tribute?

As for sporting 'merit', my sports advisor tells me it was a very thin year, but it was a public vote. That source also tells me that Joey Barton, a failed footy manager with a history of bad behaviour, is even regarded by footy fans as something that, er, rhymes with "cars pipe"? And yes, probably to him any publicity is good?

Grantanow

Why not?

Well yes, but why not wear a bikini then?

BridgetPark

Is no one else sick of the self-indulgent nature of these awards, promoted and run in totality by the BBC, for the BBC, in such a self-congratulatory manner, and the fact the the licence payer is funding the whole thing? There are a lot of people who have no real interest in sport, and I honestly think, if it wasn't run and promoted by the BBC, nobody would really miss it. Surely if we are still having to pay a licence fee for the BBC, they should be ploughing the money into good quality programmes.
So would you miss it?

I was interested in this so I googled it. There was a request for information about costs, which was refused www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/bbc_costs_of_sports_personality
There was a row about sponsorship after Robinsons were involved and it was decided that only charitable and non-profit making organisations could sponsor the event. But it is very difficult to find out any information about the costs.
I think it's OK to have an award. I think whoever receives the most votes should be an accepted winner. But I would like to know who is paying for it.

Fleurpepper

Well deserved, and yes, nasty little man.

But ... and i know we shouldn't comment on what other women wear, and was hoping somebody else would do. But what on earth ?!? was she wearing ?!?

She was wearing a David Koma dress and looked stunning.

Why not?