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HelterSkelter1 Sat 30-Dec-23 10:32:38

What to do when a friend has pronounced a word wrongly for a long time? Ignore it? Use it in conversation?

I feel bad for not "correcting" her a long time ago. As a friend corrected my pronunciation of another word and I was grateful. Saved me looking silly.
A friend of my DD pronounced prosciutto as prossquitto. Which of course we use here all the time now...friend is in the distant past so we are not offending her.

Not that we buy Italian ham often!! So don't need the correct way.

Aveline Sat 30-Dec-23 22:00:14

I do like 'bag-you-ets'. I think I'll start calling them that.

RosiesMaw Sat 30-Dec-23 21:41:50

I had a very sweet and elegant aunt in Scotland who was widely travelled and supplied shortbread to Maceys in New York as well as Harrods and Fortnums.
However she still insisted on referring to “bag-you-ets” (baguettes) and “giletts” (gilets)
Nobody minded in the slightest.

watermeadow Sat 30-Dec-23 18:38:20

I have a friend, highly educated and well-read, who goes through life approximately right. She mispronounces place names, spells my name wrongly, is oblivious to her surroundings and totally ignorant of so many ordinary things ( never heard of Wilko, never been to Ikea, never eaten baked beans) She lives in a time warp which she doesn’t know exists.
Mispronouncing words simply doesn’t matter to her.

Fleurpepper Sat 30-Dec-23 15:30:43

Fairycakes

Susie
I do wish people would pronounce “harassment” the British way rather the American way.

And I wish people would pronounce Schedule the English way, and not the American grin

The French way you mean?

As for the question in title. As so often, it just depends. If it is a question of 'class' or regional accent, or genuine mistake, then it is rude to correct in most cases. This especially so if you know that this person is not an English native speaker. Same for grammar btw (and this on Internet Forums!). Just rude and in fact, ignorant.

One positive way to 'correct' is to re-use the word correctly in your reply, and hope it may be picked up.

Of course if someone is trying to learn the language and has asked to be corrected, as they wish to improve, then it is a different matter.

BlueBelle Sat 30-Dec-23 15:29:25

Sorry to disappoint marydoll but I don’t want to try your ham 🤣
Well I pronounced skedule not shed ule but wihich is American and which is English ???

grandtanteJE65 Sat 30-Dec-23 15:12:46

I would never correct a grown-up's pronunciation, or grammar, although I probably automatically would correct a child.

Nor would I dream of employing what I consider to be the wrong way of saying anything, just because a person whom I was speaking to did. I continue saying the word as I usually do. If the other person queries it, I would just say, "Well, that's how we say it in the part of the country where I grew up."

HelterSkelter1 Sat 30-Dec-23 15:09:00

It has never annoyed me if someone mispronounces a word. I have done the same I know. The question is what do you do?

My friend has mispronounced gilet incorrectly for a long time and would be upset to be corrected or worse giggled at by an acquaintance and not a friend. So I feel bad for not preventing that.

Medical terms are a minefield. Clopidogrel we call cloppy dog. I agree Rituximab is not too difficult I got used to that very quickly, but some of the other imabs are a nightmare.

I will wait for my friend to dress up on a cold day and admire her gilet.

Marydoll Sat 30-Dec-23 15:01:03

I stand corrected Maw. 😉

RosiesMaw Sat 30-Dec-23 14:49:19

Marydoll

I would never embarrass someone by correcting their pronunciation.
I cannot pronounce a former R.A medication I was on called Toxcilizamub ( despite being a linguist 😚), so I just call it Tokkie, as all my clinicians do. wink.

I have a friend, who often invites us for ham and cheese craconts, (croissants) for lunch. We are just grateful at being asked.

Did you mean Tocilizumab Marydoll ?

And no, I can’t pronounce it either!
(DH’s rituximab was a doddle in comparison.)

Marydoll Sat 30-Dec-23 14:47:20

BlueBelle

I m vegetarian marydoll 🤣🤣🤣

My SIL was one, until he tasted prosciutto, Bluebelle! Mea culpa! 🤣

Fairycakes Sat 30-Dec-23 14:45:45

Susie
I do wish people would pronounce “harassment” the British way rather the American way.

And I wish people would pronounce Schedule the English way, and not the American grin

BlueBelle Sat 30-Dec-23 14:44:28

I don’t think I ve ever corrected anyone, that to me seems pretty rude, however I don’t think anyone’s corrected me either

Fairycakes Sat 30-Dec-23 14:39:38

I try not to make it obvious that I am correcting someone's pronuniciation. I usually include the mispronounced word in my response, using the correct pronunciation. I think I heard once that that was the polite way to correct someone.

BlueBelle Sat 30-Dec-23 14:27:06

I m vegetarian marydoll 🤣🤣🤣

Marydoll Sat 30-Dec-23 14:23:26

Bluebelle, you don't know what you are missing. A staple in my shopping basket. wink

NotSpaghetti Sat 30-Dec-23 14:21:36

Harass and research grin
Both now American it seems!

BlueBelle Sat 30-Dec-23 14:15:24

I m afraid i would have annoyed you and would have pronounced your prosciutto wrongly helterskelter never used it before
How do you like harassment to be pronounced Susie I say
ha rass ment not Harris ment but don’t know which is which

Marydoll Sat 30-Dec-23 14:11:21

I would never embarrass someone by correcting their pronunciation.
I cannot pronounce a former R.A medication I was on called Toxcilizamub ( despite being a linguist 😚), so I just call it Tokkie, as all my clinicians do. wink.

I have a friend, who often invites us for ham and cheese craconts, (croissants) for lunch. We are just grateful at being asked.

Susie42 Sat 30-Dec-23 14:07:48

I do wish people would pronounce “harassment” the British way rather the American way.

Gwyllt Sat 30-Dec-23 14:06:58

When I first moved to Wales I was a little taken aback Actually I appreciate being helped to pronounce words correctly
Welsh pronounciation is not easy

keepcalmandcavachon Sat 30-Dec-23 13:56:07

There's usually a reason though isn't there?
Hearing loss, dyslexia, confusion with dialect or maybe growing up in a household without a lot of stimulating conversation. It must make you feel awful to be 'corrected' if you know struggle for some reason.

Judy54 Sat 30-Dec-23 13:53:25

I would feel bad if I did correct someone. Best to just let it go and have a giggle about it.

Gwyllt Sat 30-Dec-23 12:55:01

Living in a Welsh speaking part of wales I am used to having my pronunciation corrected then usually try it out
We have holiday cottages and I now find myself correcting visitors and they laugh and appreciate it
Never had anyone offended
Guess the key is how you do it

crazyH Sat 30-Dec-23 12:45:50

Thanks Bella and Dickens

Dickens Sat 30-Dec-23 12:43:08

crazyH

Helterskelter - I’m interested - how do you pronounce ‘prosciutto’ ? I’m serious. I’d like to know.

Pro-shu-toe

... the first "o" as in "of" and, think, a bit of emphasis on the "t", according to my Italian neighbours!