Gotten or Got

I don't like either in written ( formal) format but I accept that " got" is widely used in speech. The television programme should be " Britain Has Talent , of course. Pedant, moi?

biglouis

I can recall it from my childhood in Liverpool people speaking of "gotten wet" and "gotten in trouble". However it was not and expression used by all classes.

maybe from the irish influence there ?
sounds similar to my, gotten hold of. english.stackexchange.com/questions/199544/ive-gotten-better-looking-as-i-get-older-when-did-gotten-re-enter-the-breng

A friend who lives in Cornwall uses gotten but she did live in the US for a while so may have imported it.

MrJ is from Northern Ireland and lived there for nearly forty years, neither he nor his extensive family use either word

Coming from the black country, gotten was often used in speech. Nothing wrong with it in my humble opinion.

Redcar

I’m from south east London and have only heard gotten spoken by young people. I also remember being told not to use ‘nice’.

I’m young.

It’s used quite commonly in the north east of Scotland, and not as an imported Americanism.

Gotten, according to Oxford English Dictionary, was first used in 1382, from the Anglo Saxons. Used in King James Bible. Any one for a pub quiz!!

Thanks for a reminder all the other things that English teachers banned! I wonder if it was part of their training?

I think I have heard "gotten" used in speech. Usually for something like "I've just gotten over flu"

We were also told not to use nice - with the inevitable result that one girl handed in a composition where almost every other word was ‘nice’. The teacher took it in good part.

I’m from south east London and have only heard gotten spoken by young people. I also remember being told not to use ‘nice’.

I also remember a teacher telling us not to use Nice. She said it wasn’t a proper word.

Glorianny

Never used "gotten"but do remember being told by my English teacher that "got' was an overused word and I should look for another word to replace it. Don't suppose she would like "gotten" either.

That was my experience too. We were advised to use - I received, I have been given, I have, I own, etc. I caught or developed for illnesses.

This was the teacher who also banned the use of 'Nice' from our written work.

Urms - I think I'd say
"I'm used to doing it this way" - or similar - as "gotten" seems to make things rather wordy somehow.

I’ve used it on occasion. Actually quite like it! 😊
As in ‘I’ve gotten used to doing it this way’ for example.

I remember being told to avoid 'got'; 'a lot of' was' was frowned upon as well.

I can recall it from my childhood in Liverpool people speaking of "gotten wet" and "gotten in trouble". However it was not and expression used by all classes.

Yes, Shakespeare used it in Richard III.

It’s creeping into British journalism, not a word I like!

I know it was used in English once - did Shakespeare use it? - but now it is definitely American. As far as I’m concerned, it is incorrect in English and should be avoided.

Glorianny

Never used "gotten"but do remember being told by my English teacher that "got' was an overused word and I should look for another word to replace it. Don't suppose she would like "gotten" either.

Goodness! Did we go to the same school, Glorianny?

I was brought up in Essex and came north to Durham via Yorkshire. En route I have never heard any British person use 'gotten' instead of 'got'.

Flappergirl I enjoy Bill Bryson's books and own a few but I must have borrowed that one from the library.

I never heard the word ‘gotten’ when I was in the South of England.
I rarely use the word ‘got’.

Never used "gotten"but do remember being told by my English teacher that "got' was an overused word and I should look for another word to replace it. Don't suppose she would like "gotten" either.

Thanks so much to everyone for your replies. I was very interested to hear other people's understanding and it certainly seems to align with mine.

I meant to qualify in my original post that I am not referring to young people who seem to have adopted "gotten" as the norm which is most definitely a result of social media or American TV.

Farmor15, I thought it highly unlikely that gotten was taught in Irish schools. I would imagine that English is taught there in the same way it is taught here.

Grammaretto, thanks for the Bill Bryson link, most interesting and I love his books.

I imagine that with so many young people now using the word, it will once more become mainstream in the UK. Language constantly evolves.