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Katie Hopkins on Kate Garraway.

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Sago Tue 16-Jan-24 10:08:34

Katie Hopkins as been quite rightly castigated after a viscous rant about Kate Garraway.

I do however feel that KG did parade her husband during his battle with Covid, it felt too intrusive to watch in an ICU bed intubated and hooked up to all kinds of support.

I’m sure he was not in a position to give his consent.

His recovery and return home was also put in the public domain, in my opinion it was too much.
There are apparently books and documentaries too.

I have never watched anything KG has presented or appeared in, I only know her as Derek Drapers wife, for which she now more famous for.

Should she have allowed Derek the dignity that Michael Schumacher has been allowed, his family have shown such love, care and respect, or was KG right to use her late husband to promote awareness?

Bromley Thu 18-Jan-24 13:32:56

That woman , Hopkins, is an appalling woman and shouldn’t be given any time at all.
She stirs up hate. If KG was coloured would her rant be allowed?

How do any of know what we would do in such awful circumstances for KG.
Compassion.

Cossy Thu 18-Jan-24 13:08:10

I would not have chosen her way BUT many do for many reasons.

I applaud anyone who does what works for them and their family

Anniel Thu 18-Jan-24 13:06:42

I would not bother to read anything that Katie Hopkins writes. But I think that Kate Garraway did an amazing job in caring for her husband. The costs of treatment must have been high and Derek Draper was no shrinking violet when he was a political journalist. I did look him up and saw he was well known in political circles and would not have resented publicity. What that family went through, like others, was horrendous I make no judgment on Kate Garraway. I do not know her and never watch morning TV so I only know her because of this tragedy. Why can’t people give this family safe to endure the grief that comes with the death of a much loved husband and father? Without looking for the worst in people.

icanhandthemback Thu 18-Jan-24 12:37:44

I have always felt uncomfortable about KG's television programmes about DD. I had sympathy about DD's plight which obviously had a huge impact on her life but I never wanted to watch or read about it beyond an update on how his recovery was going. That said, I suspect that like many other people who find themselves caring for an invalid, she probably found herself dealing with everything by crisis management and didn't really have the time to make her decisions in the way you normally would.
Going to sleep every night with that clutching feeling in your intestines because you are worried about money, medical equipment, supplies, children, etc might make you decisions slightly different than somebody who doesn't have all this going on. I don't know whether KG initially had an LPA for DD but if she didn't, I assume that she acted within the law for everything she did for DD.
As for KH, she is just a nasty piece of work. Her only value might be highlighting people who agree with her in such places as GN. I never read what she writes.

Daisydaisydaisy Thu 18-Jan-24 12:28:44

I used to follow Katie but feel she is a absolute bi**h on this so won’t be following her any longer ☹️

knspol Thu 18-Jan-24 11:27:29

I thought the coverage was way too intrusive especially the hospital scenes and those including the children. I thought KG made a real meal of her situation especially when so many others were going through similar situations. Who knows what her incentive was, maybe she did need the extra money to provide the 24 hr care her husband needed, maybe she wanted to hightight Covid effects, none of us know.
As for KG, I haven't read her comments and don't intend to, probably a cry for publicity.

CarS Thu 18-Jan-24 11:26:32

I suppose we ought to ask ourselves whether Derek's fight with Covid being so public did any good insomuch as highlighting how it can be deadly in some people and sometime trivialised especially with the Conspiracy theorists. I, in 2012 as an ordinary person made a programme documenting my mother's dementia and it is now being used in the education sector about how dementia can affect a person in an honest , shocking sometimes and also even lighthearted way, also we put in how it needs to be assessed sooner rather than later.
We made no money from it and we I believe it helped to get people talking about Dementia and all its facets. No regrets

Mojack26 Thu 18-Jan-24 11:24:27

Agree.

woodenspoon Tue 16-Jan-24 22:26:52

I feel very sorry for Kate Garroway, her family and what they have endured. However, I think a period of silence would not go amiss for a while.

Sago Tue 16-Jan-24 19:31:13

Bella23

I'm glad Sago started this post, I was beginning to think I was the wicked witch of the West, aided by a lot of comments.
I now realise a lot of people feel like I do I just put my comments on the wrong post I should have waited for this one.

You were brave to put your head above the parapet.

Dickens Tue 16-Jan-24 18:57:43

Casdon

She doesn’t just express her views though Kandinsky, she makes up lies about people. That’s why she’s been in court so many times, and why she was banned from Twitter.

Precisely this.

She has neither the wit nor intelligence to be the scathing media rapporteur that she thinks she is.

She's just a spiteful and vindictive gossip - there's no talent required for that.

And, yes - she makes up lies in order to gain publicity because enough people "agree" with her views.

She came a cropper with Jack Monroe, but that didn't teach her a lesson. Any sensible person would've taken stock, but no that silly woman.

Her motives are as dishonourable as dishonourable motives can possibly be.

Sure - let her have her free-speech, she damns herself every time. Abominable woman.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Jan-24 18:42:20

Judging by some recent posts, unfortunately I think not Whethertomorrow. A lot of people seem very blasé about the risks to themselves and others.

Whethertomorrow Tue 16-Jan-24 18:32:02

I am very sorry for anyone having to deal with a bereavement, having gone through it when my husband died.

What I do know however, is that Derek’s much publicised situation absolutely scared me to bits. Covid in my mind became a ‘if you get it you’re dead’ illness. Of course, his story wasn’t the only bad one happening but as it was in the press so often it was the one affecting me the most.

I also wonder if his illness and the resulting tragedy made other people mask up and have the vaccinations that they might not have done.

Bella23 Tue 16-Jan-24 18:22:48

I'm glad Sago started this post, I was beginning to think I was the wicked witch of the West, aided by a lot of comments.
I now realise a lot of people feel like I do I just put my comments on the wrong post I should have waited for this one.

Galaxy Tue 16-Jan-24 18:12:30

Handing power over opinions to whoever runs Twitter is much more frightening to me than anything Hopkins has to say.

Casdon Tue 16-Jan-24 18:07:30

She doesn’t just express her views though Kandinsky, she makes up lies about people. That’s why she’s been in court so many times, and why she was banned from Twitter.

Kandinsky Tue 16-Jan-24 17:58:07

I don’t agree with a lot of what she says, but I have agreed with her sometimes ( can’t remember on what? )
I think it’s important that all views are expressed - providing they’re legal of course.

Casdon Tue 16-Jan-24 17:54:15

I think you’re on the money regarding Katie Hopkins Dickens. She is a terminally vindictive person, and is indiscriminate in her choice of victim. She has no conscience. Unfortunately Elon Musk lifting the ban on her X account does nobody any favours except her bank account.

Dickens Tue 16-Jan-24 17:47:11

Callistemon21

Germanshepherdsmum

I’ve googled her out of FOMO. Her face isn’t remotely familiar. But at least I will know her if I fall over her and will know who to report if she kicks me. Not much of a looker is she?

She lost in a libel case and had to sell her £1m home to pay £500,000 in legal costs.
Yet still continues with her poisonous comments. She can't be very bright 🤔

She lost in a libel case and had to sell her £1m home to pay £500,000 in legal costs.

If I remember correctly, she - Katie Hopkins - was given the opportunity to publicly apologise for libelling Jack Monroe.

Had she the grace to have admitted that her comments (tweets) were unfounded and apologised - she might not have lost her home.

Jack Monroe also has her critics. And I know little about her so won't comment - except to say that her pinch-penny recipes, designed for those who hardly have two ha'pennies to rub together, are very useful for anyone on a tight budget. She sells them (in order to make a living) but also donates many free online and in foodbanks. I've used some of them myself when I've had odd tins of food and bits and pieces left over in the food cupboard. She certainly has a knack of turning dull necessities into something quite palatable - for mere pennies.

Hopkins appears to decide to home in on someone who she doesn't like, and then go full tilt-at them, regardless.

She once sneered at those who chose "geographical" names for their children. she “didn’t like” children with "lower class” names such as Charmaine, Chantelle, Chardonnay and Tyler and that she would prevent her own offspring from playing with them.

... which is rather ironic considering one of her daughters is named "India".

I wasn't keen on all the publicity given to KG and her husband (for his sake), but Katie Hopkins is, quite simply, a very nasty piece of work.

Grannynannywanny Tue 16-Jan-24 17:46:34

I see Katie Hopkins in the same category as Laurence Fox. A pair of vile attention seekers who like to come out with outrageous or controversial comments just in case we forget about them.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Jan-24 17:42:34

True,*Galaxy*. KG went much further than was needed to publicise the dangers of covid.

JenniferEccles Tue 16-Jan-24 17:39:44

Katie Hopkins of course has always been a controversial figure who seems to positively delight in pushing the boundaries. It’s her ‘thing’.
When more restrained though she can be funny in a very wicked way.
This time though she definitely went too far, and there could well be repercussions for her.

Galaxy Tue 16-Jan-24 17:33:46

It's possible to have sympathy with the family and discuss the issue of consent. How we deal with the consent of those who for whatever reason may or may not have capacity is a subject that impacts on many people.

Farzanah Tue 16-Jan-24 17:31:18

Did anyone see the YouTube of Josh Pieters pranking Katie Hopkins When I flew Katie Hopkins to Prague for a fake award (was in .2020)
A just reward for her I think.

sodapop Tue 16-Jan-24 17:18:53

Walk a mile in her shoes, Kate Garroway lives her life in the public eye and used this to raise awareness. Maybe it was a bit intrusive for Derek Draper at times but I think their intentions were good.
I have nothing to say about the unspeakable Katie Hopkins
My sympathies are with Kate Garroway and her family.