Have any of you got all electric cars? Pros and cons please.

I have an electric Zoe and it is lovely. I have a charging point at home. I don’t drive long journeys so it’s ideal for me. It was 18 months old when I bought and the price of the car was comparable to a petrol one. I drive most days with the heater on if it’s cold or the air conditioning on if it hot. A full charge lasts me over two weeks.

Thankyou

Apology accepted, don’t worry about it. It’s already forgotten

Sorry Maddyone for my rude post. I asked GN to remove it but I see they haven't.

EVs are not compulsory until 2035 even then petrol cars will be on the roads for at least 20 yrs, we can all choose what we want.

EVs have caught fire and are headline news despite in the same period probably 100 others have caught fire without a mention.
However you wait until a hydrogen car catches fire, that will be spectacular.

Grammaretto

Maddone

Petrol and diesel cars can also burst into flames
DH had a dreadful experience on the M8 with an office car, years ago.

I genuinely think you are too scared to try something new.

Slow down a bit. Why all the rush?

It's for the good of everyone surely. Its not just about your urgent trip to the supermarket or whatever you use your 2 cars for.

What an unpleasant post.

Surely the The moral superiority comment was tongue in cheek!

Let's not get too exercised by a bit of humour.

And apparently nearly 60% of all child labourers work in agriculture - in tea, coffee, cocoa, sugar, cotton production industries.

So why does it happen -
A complex mixture of social attitudes, rampant poverty, household dependency, alternative constructions of childhood, production cycles and poor labour law enforcement
(https://www.york.ac.uk/igdc/news/news/2022/agricultural-child-labour/)

Let's not become too morally superior here.

Rosie51

^The moral superiority that you experience while you drink your coffee and watch your car charging must be a good feeling too 😅😂^ all the while not giving one thought to those, often children, who suffer great harm to their health from the necessary cobalt mining.

When it comes to exploitation there is plenty producing oil, or textiles and many other products we all use.

The moral superiority that you experience while you drink your coffee and watch your car charging must be a good feeling too 😅😂 all the while not giving one thought to those, often children, who suffer great harm to their health from the necessary cobalt mining.

Aveline

Only the Guardian?

No, plenty of evidence if you look for it, but the series of Guardian EV Mythbusters articles are strong on evidence and do address both sides of the discussion. I have posted some of the links on here, but I think there are about six in all. The SpeakEV forum is good for evidence too.

Only the Guardian?

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

I do completely understand that it is harder for people who can't install chargers (though judging from this thread there are people who manage perfectly well), but I have just gone out of my back door to plug in the car for an overnight full charge. It really is much easier than going to a petrol station to fill up.
I think the figure of a 47% increase in UK public chargers in 12 months is impressive. I do know from family and friends in the UK that it has all got much easier and the charging stations with high-speed chargers, loos and cafés are much appreciated.
The Guardian evidence de-bunking the myths is also helpful to the bigger picture.

Grammaretto

Rosie Don't the fact that they are non polluting, and quiet make up for being a bit slower to charge up?
The moral superiority that you experience while you drink your coffee and watch your car charging must be a good feeling too 😅😂

Lol that's if you can find a charging point that is working and doesn't have a line of cars waiting to charge. Its not my car that's being changed but my husbands don't think he would feel any moral superiority if he's got to faff about charging when he is in a hurry. He would consider a hybrid but they are expensive so it looks like a F pace diesel 3ltr

the moral superiority that you experience

What utter rubbish.

I don’t ever want an electric car. Apart from the charging issues, to some extent solved if a charger is installed at home, electric cars have an unfortunate ability to burst into flames apparently. Obviously whilst this is comparatively rare, it most certainly does happen.
I bought myself a new i20 last October. It was my second i20, I kept my first eleven years. It’s a petrol car. Petrol is much cleaner now as is diesel, although I think diesel will be phased out. If we go into London we use my car as it’s ULEZ compliant.
It’s absolutely nothing to do with fear of the unknown, it’s the initial expense, it’s lack of charging facilities when on longer journeys, it’s the running down of the battery when crawling in a traffic jam, and it’s the possibility of the car bursting into flames.

Rosie Don't the fact that they are non polluting, and quiet make up for being a bit slower to charge up?
The moral superiority that you experience while you drink your coffee and watch your car charging must be a good feeling too 😅😂

Electric cars will be fine once you can charge them up as quickly as you can fill up with diesel until then they can keep them

That's a shame Aveline.
My only petrol station was closed on Thursday when I went fill up. I must try again

There are two near us but they've been out of order since they were set up. They're just used as parking spaces for cars these days.

There are charging points at Tesco, at the Straiton park & ride, at the Midlothian Science Park, in Penicuik High St etc. I am sure if I had an ev I would quickly work out where they are, how much they cost and how long they take.

Two of my friends are unable to charge at their own homes so rely on a weekly charge. They both seem quite happy at present.

I think that fear of the new gets in the way of innovation.

Aveline

4 charging stations aren't enough at all given your local population. Petrol can be bought at a whole host of petrol stations which don't have to be near one's home. People often fill up at one near work or at a supermarket or even shop around for the cheapest place. It's a matter of moments to fill up, pay and go.

It rather depends on how many chargers there are at the charging station. Might be six, might be 40.
This is from ZapMap a UK charging app.

"At the end of March 2024, there were 59,590 electric vehicle charging points across the UK, across 32,322 charging locations. This represents a 47% increase in the total number of charging devices since March 2023."

4 charging stations aren't enough at all given your local population. Petrol can be bought at a whole host of petrol stations which don't have to be near one's home. People often fill up at one near work or at a supermarket or even shop around for the cheapest place. It's a matter of moments to fill up, pay and go.

Aveline

Maybe where you live in Scotland has lots of charging points Grammaretto but they certainly don't have them near us.

I live approx 12 miles south of Edinburgh. There are 4 charging stations within 5 miles of me. One is across the road. Whereas we have only one petrol station. (which also has an EV charging point)

I had this conversation about charging points with my BIL in Brisbane Australia, he’s a petrol head with a massive V8, he claimed there were no charging points. So I just googled “EV charging Brisbane” and there were dozens of chargers, 3 within a couple of miles, none so blind as those that don’t want to see.
Obviously you’re not likely to want an EV if you live in the Outback but that’s no reason to deny the use for 95% of urban drivers where most charging is going to be at home anyway.