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Nellieknits1944 Thu 01-Feb-24 12:50:46

My 15 year old granddaughter has recently taken up vaping and I have tried to get her mother, my daughter, to talk to her about it as this is not good but she does not seem to care. My daughter has been slightly unstable her entire life and we have a fluctuating relationship dynamic. I have been told by my grandson, her other child aged 10, that she buys vapes for her and I am at a loss. I don’t want to get the police involved as the children may get taken away and I am unfit to take care of them because I have health complications. Their father is nowhere to be seen. How should I handle the situation? Everytime I try and talk to my granddaughter she ignores my advice as I used to smoke cigarettes. sad

petra Wed 05-Feb-25 09:18:53

WelwynWitch3

Do not try to advise a 15 year old it won’t work, they might heed peer pressure but not nana. You could tell your daughter it is illegal to buy vapes for under 18 but I doubt she will listen anyway. Afraid your granddaughter will have to learn for herself, it’s called growing up. Just let her know you love and care about her.

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WelwynWitch3 Wed 05-Feb-25 09:11:21

Do not try to advise a 15 year old it won’t work, they might heed peer pressure but not nana. You could tell your daughter it is illegal to buy vapes for under 18 but I doubt she will listen anyway. Afraid your granddaughter will have to learn for herself, it’s called growing up. Just let her know you love and care about her.

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BlueBelle Thu 01-Feb-24 18:40:28

Very nasty , we don’t do nasty for the sake of nasty on here That’s not welcome Stephanie

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 01-Feb-24 18:08:43

It was.

Callistemon21 Thu 01-Feb-24 18:07:54

I've reported it too.

It wasn't sarcastic, it was a nasty attack on the OP and her daughter.

StephanieBrigantine8691 Thu 01-Feb-24 17:55:46

I would like to point out that, of course, my earlier post was sarcasm and in no way condone either smoking or vaping. Sorry for any confusion that may have arised.
Steph

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 01-Feb-24 17:52:00

Reported.

StephanieBrigantine8691 Thu 01-Feb-24 17:50:35

Dearest Nellie, huffer of pipes.
I am frankly disgusted that your daughter has allowed her to vape e-cigarettes! Those dopey little things are for millennials and failures. Your daughter should be providing proper fuel for her nicotine addiction. Personally I recommend Camels cigarettes, they are a winners cigs, none of that pathetic electric vape rabble.
On her twentieth pack today, Steph

Desdemona Thu 01-Feb-24 17:10:02

I meant to say the OP has a daughter who is buying them for her child.

Nellieknits1944 Thu 01-Feb-24 16:59:37

Thanks for all the helpful advice everyone!

Desdemona Thu 01-Feb-24 16:57:21

A lot of vapes are being stolen from shops by schoolchildren ( and adults too.)

They come in and grab a pocketful of them, and the guards are not allowed to physically apprehend them.

It is time that vapes are seriously controlled and only sold from behind cigarette counters in shops, not out on the shop floor. (Not that this would help in the case of the OP - who is buying them for her own daughter.)

Callistemon21 Thu 01-Feb-24 16:49:13

capita? What is autocorrect thinking of?

A chat!

BlueBelle Thu 01-Feb-24 16:48:32

Vaping is horrible one of my ex son in laws used to go outside a few times in an evening for a cigarette however once vaping arrived he just lay on the settee vaping all evening whilst watching tv consequently my eldest grandaughter vapes, luckily the other two don’t seem to have ‘caught it’ I m hoping she grows out of it. Not sure about any of my other grandkids never seen them vape
The worst thing ever invented it doesnt stop smoking it just changes the habit and is more frequent as it’s considered safer and more ‘acceptable’ which isn’t the case, horrible chemicals in them plus some nicotine although not as much as in cigarettes
They stink too

Callistemon21 Thu 01-Feb-24 16:45:16

Debbi58

Loads of young people are using vapes, I picked my 2 granddaughter's up from their high school a few weeks ago. I was shocked at the amount of teenagers coming out of school vaping, they're too young to buy them, so are the parents buying them 🤔 really worrying trend. Not much you can do about your granddaughter using them if her Mum's buying them

No, unscrupulous vape shop owners/employees are selling them to children who are clearly under the age of 18. Parents should report the shop to the police.

The government is trying to do something about this but not enough and not soon enough
New £100 fines will also be brought in for shops in England and Wales which sell vapes illegally to children.
That won't deter them!

Children are being targeted by vape manufacturers and it is a disgrace; they come in flavours aimed at young children.

Vapes started as an aid to help people who wanted to quit smoking cigarettes, now they have become a huge business.
UK Vaping Industry Association - it seems they are untouchable. Do they really care if they destroy young lives?

Sorry for rant!

I can understand how worried you are, it's difficult especially if her mother is complicit in this. You need to have a capita with her mother, trying to stay calm.

Everytime I try and talk to my granddaughter she ignores my advice as I used to smoke cigarettes.
Yes, but you gave up! It can be done and so many people managed this without the aid of vapes.

Jaxjacky Thu 01-Feb-24 16:32:54

Don’t use the popcorn lung argument it’s a myth, which she could check herself.

www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nhs.uk/better-health/quit-smoking/vaping-to-quit-smoking/vaping-myths-and-the-facts/%23:~:text%3DMyth%25207%253A%2520Vaping%2520causes%2520%27popcorn%2520lung%27%26text%3DVaping%2520does%2520not%2520cause%2520%2522popcorn,diacetyl)%2520used%2520to%2520flavour%2520popcorn.&sa=U&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwixmaa6yIqEAxVCVUEAHWvHDp8QFnoECAIQBQ&usg=AOvVaw0XoU1TjRzh65TQ6Du5JRHe

Chestnut Thu 01-Feb-24 16:24:18

I think the only way to reach her is by trying to stop her mother buying them. Have a heart to heart, explain how much you regret smoking, and that vaping is just as bad because it is possibly even more addictive. Remind her that illegal substances are put into the vapes and you cannot be sure what you are smoking. Much like heroin, which is not pure but has drain cleaner added which people are injecting themselves with, along with other toxic substances. As a teenager she risks her lungs collapsing with popcorn lung and this is permanent. Her mother needs to see the light then she will stop enabling her daughter. Remind her also it is illegal, and then flatter her with compliments about being a responsible mother (but don't overdo it).

Debbi58 Thu 01-Feb-24 15:07:15

Loads of young people are using vapes, I picked my 2 granddaughter's up from their high school a few weeks ago. I was shocked at the amount of teenagers coming out of school vaping, they're too young to buy them, so are the parents buying them 🤔 really worrying trend. Not much you can do about your granddaughter using them if her Mum's buying them

NotSpaghetti Thu 01-Feb-24 14:17:20

Oh. I see the mother is buying them. 🙄

NotSpaghetti Thu 01-Feb-24 14:14:40

Why not talk to her yourself about the dangers of nicotine and your regrets?

I'd probably ask why she does it and try to understand. Obviously I'd make sure I had all the latest research at my fingertips first though! On, and I'd pick my monent!

Don't be judgemental as she needs to make her own decisions at this age. Nobody will ever bully her out of it.
There's almost certainly a lot online to help you.
Here's the 1st thing I came across-

www.lung.org/quit-smoking/helping-teens-quit/talk-about-vaping/conversation-guide

Sadly I think her friends will be influenceing her (and vice versa) whilst it is "cool" to vape.

Can you discover where they are purchased and report the shop if they are selling to children?

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 01-Feb-24 13:31:28

The police might be interested if the mother is buying these things for a person under 18.

Theexwife Thu 01-Feb-24 13:07:39

There isn’t a lot you can do about it, the police would not be interested at all. Hopefully it is a phase and if she wasn’t vaping would probably be smoking.

Knitandnatter Thu 01-Feb-24 12:57:57

I guess I have been fortunate in so far as none of my AC or GC have smoked, vaped, or shown any inclination to try either.

In fact, we often have a giggle when we see anyone vaping as the cloud of vapours emitted from the contraption itself and the exhaled vapours does rather make the user look like an old steam engine!

Why anyone would want to put unknown chemicals into their respiratory system is beyond me. Perhaps you could try asking a healthcare professional for some pictures of damaged lungs to show both your DD and GD to see if that might shock some sense into them both.

crochetcarol Thu 01-Feb-24 12:54:47

Hi Nellie, It’s me again. Perhaps you could try encouraging your granddaughter to quit the best way us grands know best…bribery haha. Maybe, if she agrees set her goals, for example if she goes a week without using her e-cigarette give her a couple of pounds and increase the rewards as the milestones progress eg, taking her out for a delicious meal for a month of no smoking 😋. Hope this helps, Carol x