Lyle’s golden syrup tin to have lion logo removed

Call me sad but this has made me look in the depths of my cupboard to find my tin to check on the state of the Lion. I confess I had never really looked but it's too late as I must have thrown it out as it was probably out of date. I have an unopened plastic Lyle's Golden Syrup that I must have replaced the tin with. It shows a lion on its side with what looks like rain around its head, in fact you could mistake it for a horse apart from the tail. To me it still looks dead; Thanks Primrose, I am obviously not as observant as I thought I was.

SeaWoozle, I wasn't having a goat you by the way. I was genuinely interested, as a lot of folk are quick to critisize Christianity, while supporting other religions that have failings of their own.

Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights.

The term «woke» is very misused and misunderstood and is definitely not «stupid» it’s the way most decent human beings behave and I for one am happy to be woke and removing the picture of a dead lion from a tin of syrup seems like a positive step forward

Fairycakes

*SeaWoozle*, I wasn't having a goat you by the way. I was genuinely interested, as a lot of folk are quick to critisize Christianity, while supporting other religions that have failings of their own.

And I apologise sincerely if I came across as rather defensive. Whilst I (generally) respect folk for their faith and beliefs, I will also call out those who are using them to be divisive, hurtful and twist words to suit their own agenda. Be those words ones from the bible or ones from the mouths of people around them. And whilst I will always defend the right to free speech, I will also defend the right to respond. And I will always put my hand up if I am wrong, but will defend myself or others if I know I am/they are right.

Always thought the lion was sleeping after snaffling so much sweet syrup! Never saw the bees! Can't see the point of it all - except yes, of course, price will go up!

I understand it was a commercial decision by the company not made because of complaints of trauma, but because it was a bit old fashioned and maybe they want to improve their sales at the end of the day. I doubt whether 20% of the population know the Bible story, and most people don’t buy the product because of the picture on the tin. All those moaning about it should direct their anger at the company and go out and purchase more of the product to replace the 10 year old tin of the sugary stuff at the back of their cupboard.

Auntieflo

I wonder when and where, all this 'woke' stupidity will end?

Am I alone in thinking "woke"is a new idiotic superfluous word we don't need? Do I want to know what it signifies?

Shirls52000

Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights.

The term «woke» is very misused and misunderstood and is definitely not «stupid» it’s the way most decent human beings behave and I for one am happy to be woke and removing the picture of a dead lion from a tin of syrup seems like a positive step forward

I didn't see your post. Sorry. I still don't think it is a word I am likely to use as it doesn't sound right to me

Got to almost 62 years old to be told the lion's been dead all these years. I never looked closely enough & never heard the story. I'm glad they're changing it!

The story behind the lion
1883. Lyle had strong religious beliefs, which is why the tin's famous logo depicts strongman Samson's 'lion and bees' from the Bible's Old Testament, registered as Lyle's trademark.
and
Scotsman Abraham Lyle, who founded the product, was inspired by a Bible story in which Samson kills a lion and returns to find bees have built a hive in its carcass. The product's tagline - 'Out of the strong came forth sweetness' - alludes to Samson's riddle to his wedding guests about the source of the honey.

So perhaps it is time to move on.

What exactly are snowflakes? People who think differently to you? 🙄

I am so thick, I always assumed the lion was sleeping. I mean, really, why on earth would anyone imagine a dead one was good brand PR?

I've just realised (from these posts) that what I thought was rain are in fact bees. Having been drawn into this discussion I now think that the Lion should go, it still doesn't look right on my plastic bottle and if it really is a dead lion being attacked by bees then I agree with others that it is a bit bizarre and inappropriate.

Stella14

What exactly are snowflakes? People who think differently to you? 🙄

Snowflakes are people who are always on the lookout for something to be offended about. They then try to push their opinions on to others because it makes them feel superior. When I was young they would have been called “cause criers” I think.

Dislike the term ‘woke’ intensely. It is a pejorative term given to people who care about equality, the environment, mental health issues, LGBTQIA’s+ rights - and, in fact, any areas of injustice. To quote the inspirational Cathy Burke: “I’d rather be woke than be a **”. Metoo#

BlueBelle

I abhor the words ‘woke’ and ‘snowflake’ they are usually hurled at people who have a heart
I never even looked close enough to know it was a dead lion with insects buzzing round it yuk yuk yuk I just thought it was a lion but now I know I m very glad they are getting rid of it horrible logo why would they want that
Whats the connection between a dead lion with insects round its body and Golden syrup ???

No, they are usually used to describe someone who manages to be offended by something that anyone with an ounce of commonsense would just ignore!!!

I find myself more and more living by the quote “I’m offended that you’re offended!”
🙄

I’ve just remembered a funny/alarming tale from a friend about Tate & Lyle’s black treacle. She was at her granny’s cottage when they decided to make something that required black treacle.

Granny found an ancient tin and went to open it. As she carefully levered off the lid, the entire thing suddenly exploded, the lid was almost launched into space and the kitchen was showered with a sticky black tar-like substance. They searched for but never found the lid.

Many years later, granny had died and the family were emptying the house. They ventured into the attic to remove the clutter and behold, there was the lid of the black treacle tin, firmly embedded into a rafter!! Who knew old treacle tins were so dangerous? I’ve always given any tins I have all due respect, since then.

Emilymaria

Dislike the term ‘woke’ intensely. It is a pejorative term given to people who care about equality, the environment, mental health issues, LGBTQIA’s+ rights - and, in fact, any areas of injustice. To quote the inspirational Cathy Burke: “I’d rather be woke than be a **”. Metoo#

LOVE Kathy Burke. And couldn't agree more. If woke means giving a toss about equity, our community & environment, people in minority groups, and speaking for those who don't have a voice, then I'm in. Call me "woke" all you like, but I absolutely not think I'm better than anyone else. As said previously, I'll defend anyone's right to free speech. But I'll also defend someone's right to respond. If you don't like the answer? Don't ask the question.

SueDonim

I’ve just remembered a funny/alarming tale from a friend about Tate & Lyle’s black treacle. She was at her granny’s cottage when they decided to make something that required black treacle.

Granny found an ancient tin and went to open it. As she carefully levered off the lid, the entire thing suddenly exploded, the lid was almost launched into space and the kitchen was showered with a sticky black tar-like substance. They searched for but never found the lid.

Many years later, granny had died and the family were emptying the house. They ventured into the attic to remove the clutter and behold, there was the lid of the black treacle tin, firmly embedded into a rafter!! Who knew old treacle tins were so dangerous? I’ve always given any tins I have all due respect, since then.

Oh my goodness! I bet that took hours to clean up! And if I'd found the tin lid, I think I'd have to frame it! 🤣

Out of the strong came forth sweetness. It's from the Bible, so I suppose it's another concession to others who might be offended. Well, what about everyone who is offended that it's being removed?

Emilymaria

Dislike the term ‘woke’ intensely. It is a pejorative term given to people who care about equality, the environment, mental health issues, LGBTQIA’s+ rights - and, in fact, any areas of injustice. To quote the inspirational Cathy Burke: “I’d rather be woke than be a **”. Metoo#

“Inspirational”? 😱. She is a foul mouthed, washed up comedienne. In fact her character Waynetta Slob is a nicer person than she is.

I always thought it was a sleeping lion. Not been able to get the tin for a while - hate the plastic bottle.

Primrose53. Are you OK? When I see posts such as yours (in your response to Emily Maria) I wonder what has happened to someone to make them seemingly so mean and full of bitterness towards total strangers?

And for what's it worth, Kathy Burke probably couldn't give a flying f* what you think about her. I'm certain she's heard it all before. Unkind, all the same.

Be well.

Not mean or bitter at all. 🙂. I said nothing directly to Emily Maria by the way. I think you will find Kathy Burke has said far worse things to people. It was my observation on Kathy Burke and she is famous for being foul mouthed.

thought it was sleeping