Lyle’s golden syrup tin to have lion logo removed

'Woke ' is nothing but a term of abuse aimed at people who care about human rights and welfare.

Well, I’ve read on a Facebook page a statement from the Lyle’s company, saying that they are very proud of their lion brand, I think the oldest brand in the world, and are not changing the design or the tin.

Put on about 16 hours ago.

Spinnaker

So pleased I bought this teapot many years ago

Thanks for sharing teapot. I never knew that about the lion being dead, not nice, why would they want to depicted that. If I see in shops, I'll buy one for posterity.

The story of the lion comes from a bible story Judges 14

The tin bears a picture of the rotting carcass of a lion with a swarm of bees and the advertising slogan "Out of the strong came forth sweetness". The slogan, chosen by Abram Lyle, is a reference to the Biblical story in chapter 14 of the Book of Judges in which Samson was travelling to the land of the Philistines in search of a wife. During the journey he killed a lion, and when he passed the same spot on his return he noticed that a swarm of bees had formed a comb of honey in the carcass. Samson later turned this into a riddle at a wedding: "Out of the eater came forth meat and out of the strong came forth sweetness".[7] While it is not known exactly why this image and slogan were chosen, Abram Lyle was a deeply religious man, and it has been suggested that they refer either to the strength of the Lyle company or the tins in which golden syrup is sold, or simply to the process of refining sweet syrup from bitter ("strong") treacle.[4] In 1904, they were registered together as a trademark,[4] and in 2006 Guinness World Records declared the mark to be the world's oldest branding and packaging.[8] Lyle's golden syrup was awarded a Royal Warrant in 1911.[4]

The logo was first used in 1888.

OMG all the do-gooders and those who think we must be politically correct. Lions are associated with GB and England. They will want to remove them from the England football team shirts next. We should keep what we have and if lions used to be important to us why are they not now? Tate and Lyle - you should make a stand and keep the lion on your tins!!!

oldeman

OMG all the do-gooders and those who think we must be politically correct. Lions are associated with GB and England. They will want to remove them from the England football team shirts next. We should keep what we have and if lions used to be important to us why are they not now? Tate and Lyle - you should make a stand and keep the lion on your tins!!!

Has anyone suggested that lions are not important anymore?And there is still a lion on the new design anyway, even though the company is American not British!

I bought a 'heritage' tin of Lyle's Golden Syrup. lion.bees, legend and all, today from Waitrose and shall cherish it.

Definitely keeping the original lion on the syrup tins. 👏👏 It is only the squeezy bottles that will have the new lions face design.

Confirmed by Tate and Lyles on Facebook as someone said earlier.

I doubt that most people even twig that the lion’s dead, it looks like its having a snooze.
I don’t like the tins though as the lid gets all sticky, so buy the plastic bottle. Just have to have it with my porridge, finger lickin’ good.

And there was me thinking all these years it was just having an afternoon snooze! And I'd never noticed the bees either. Oh dear.

I don’t know why anyone would “cherish” a tin of sugary stuff with a dead lion on it, but whatever floats your boat….

CoolCoco artwork in the 1800s was very much into portraying gloomy, sentimental and quite shocking scenes, Thinking about wailing wives at Quaysides and fishermen drowned at sea floating away on the tide. People clad in black at funerals etc. just the way things were in those days.

Sadly, CoolCoco, there are many things you don't know.

I did know the origin of the image on the tin, but I’m relieved to have syrup in a squeezy container, even though plastic is bad for the environment.
No matter how carefully we rinsed the lid or wiped the edges of the tin, it was always sticky. (Taught me about using a lever to lift something tricky though.)

I’m sure I’ve read somewhere (sorry to those who like a link) that the company has no intention of changing their tins.

Just found it on their Facebook page. “Lyles golden syrup”. Sorry can’t do links.

Another sign of our times, sadly. Whatever are they going to think of next! Down with this woke rubbish, we are all much worse off. We need some common sense back!

JudyBloom

Another sign of our times, sadly. Whatever are they going to think of next! Down with this woke rubbish, we are all much worse off. We need some common sense back!

Woke, woke, woke! Yawn, yawn, yawn......

What's your suggestion then?

JudyBloom

Actually they’ve achieved more free publicity for their product than they could have imagined. It’s given rise to discussion on the news and in social media.
They’ve educated all those who didn’t know the origin of the image and then, if what Oldbat1 read is true, the change isn’t going to happen.
Clever marketing, or an accidental event?

Mollygo I believe you are right!

I wonder if there has been a run on Golden Syrup. Maybe some purchasers empty the contents down the sink, wash the tin, and keep it as a display piece or to keep their emergency cash in.

My middle aged sons never had Lyles Golden Syrup on the table so never had occasion to ask about the meaning of the logo. By contrast The Golden Syrup tin was regularly on the tea table when I was a child so I asked and was told the story of the lion and the motto underneath the picture of the lion.

Scripture is no longer one of the core subjects in most schools.

I love the lion on the tin, for goodness sake leave it on, you can’t look for trouble and double meanings in everyone and everything. I’m going to buy a tin in protest

Caleo

My middle aged sons never had Lyles Golden Syrup on the table so never had occasion to ask about the meaning of the logo. By contrast The Golden Syrup tin was regularly on the tea table when I was a child so I asked and was told the story of the lion and the motto underneath the picture of the lion.

Scripture is no longer one of the core subjects in most schools.

Scripture is no longer one of the core subjects in most schools

As it shouldn't be. Religion and education should be kept separate. You can teach children to be kind and respectful without barking the bible at them. It's irrelevant. But that's just my opinion, of course.

Though if you're going to teach "religion" to educate students on diversity, inclusion and culture, then it needs to be snippets of all of them.

SeaWoozle
Though if you're going to teach "religion" to educate students on diversity, inclusion and culture, then it needs to be snippets of all of them.
It is, in state primary and CofE schools at at least. Whether other religious schools do the same, I don’t know.