Depraved modern comedy.

Do you want the world to go back to when it was deemed risque to show one’s ankles?

I don't think anyone would argue for that and that reduces the argument to absurdity, as there is a case to be made out that some of what we now see in society is of concern. fair2good has outlined some of this, much of which I would think anyone on here might have concerns about. No-one wants to go back to the days of sexual guilt and condemnation of homosexuals, but wishing to see the back of some of thee worrying trends does not equate to prudishness.

There is a balance to be struck and sometimes it does feel as though some things are out of kilter, especially with the spread of social media and its effect on young people.

…very much doubt that. Some will be, but some will also be your age or older. The message from most is that they have moved with the times but still have decent moral values. Times do change and we may well feel that some changes are not for the better, but we do our children and grandchildren no service by not recognising that changes have happened.

I take particular exception to your very nasty comment about ‘some of the posters on here’ and their children. I wonder to which posters you are referring?

GrannyGravy13

Fair2good I can assure you that our children are leading very happy lives, as are our grandchildren…

Do you want the world to go back to when it was deemed risque to show one’s ankles?

As are mine - both children and grandchild. You cannot turn the clock back, no matter how much some people might like to. As I said before, this particular genie is well and truly out of the bottle - we have to educate our young people on how to cope with it.

Mine is too, despite his parents having divorced - following which I had only one partner, to whom I have been married for over a quarter of a century.

Luckygirl3

*Do you want the world to go back to when it was deemed risque to show one’s ankles?*

I don't think anyone would argue for that and that reduces the argument to absurdity, as there is a case to be made out that some of what we now see in society is of concern. fair2good has outlined some of this, much of which I would think anyone on here might have concerns about. No-one wants to go back to the days of sexual guilt and condemnation of homosexuals, but wishing to see the back of some of thee worrying trends does not equate to prudishness.

There is a balance to be struck and sometimes it does feel as though some things are out of kilter, especially with the spread of social media and its effect on young people.

With the invention of the internet, the genie is well and truly out of the bottle, will in my opinion never go back.

So what do we as a society do?

Educate our youngsters to value themselves and their bodies, to not be ashamed of their sexuality.

To value relationships along with the understanding of consent, no means no regardless at what point it is said.

To teach both girls and boys respect for the opposite sex.

Precisely.

I should have added, for the OP’s benefit, that my son is married and had been married for several years before having a child. Sorry to burst her stereotypical balloon.

GrannyGravy13

Luckygirl3

Do you want the world to go back to when it was deemed risque to show one’s ankles?

I don't think anyone would argue for that and that reduces the argument to absurdity, as there is a case to be made out that some of what we now see in society is of concern. fair2good has outlined some of this, much of which I would think anyone on here might have concerns about. No-one wants to go back to the days of sexual guilt and condemnation of homosexuals, but wishing to see the back of some of thee worrying trends does not equate to prudishness.

There is a balance to be struck and sometimes it does feel as though some things are out of kilter, especially with the spread of social media and its effect on young people.

With the invention of the internet, the genie is well and truly out of the bottle, will in my opinion never go back.

So what do we as a society do?

Educate our youngsters to value themselves and their bodies, to not be ashamed of their sexuality.

To value relationships along with the understanding of consent, no means no regardless at what point it is said.

To teach both girls and boys respect for the opposite sex.

I am sure that is what we would all wish, and what our AC are doing with our GC. But, having worked as a social worker, I am acutely aware that not all children and young people are brought up in such advantageous circumstances. These are the ones who are so vulnerable to all this media emphasis on voyeuristic sex. They have no examples of sound relationships to work on; nor the self-confidence that we all hope to foster in our chidlren. They are easily swayed by the promise of "love" and find themselves exploited.

I watched part of this and found it really distasteful. What the hell is it coming to when we see stuff like this? I don’t think there are any boundaries now on TV and I am NOT a prude.

I can remember when my son fell for his Mary (he was Joseph) in his school Christmas play. He was about 8 and he was so sweet and gentle with her.. fortunately he remained rather a romantic and treated girls with respect. This was just before the social media age. He had very clear ideas about relationships and is now happily married. There must be so many young people who have dreams of a respectful, loving and meaningful relationship. I hope these explicit sex scenes that are so available don't become their reality..

I haven't heard of this film......will watch it later.

Luckygirl your reference to your work experience rang bells with me. I’m old enough to remember the first time a parent excused highly sexualised behaviour in their children by saying the kids found the parent pornogaphic dvds and watched them. Nonsense it was and proved to be but these days ….

I have just watched episode 1 of "The Gentleman" on Netflix which is a black comedy written by Guy Ritchie.

Its hilarious....but dark in places so not one for children.

Thanks Desdemona, I saw a positive review and need a new watch

Luckygirl3

GrannyGravy13

Luckygirl3

Do you want the world to go back to when it was deemed risque to show one’s ankles?

I don't think anyone would argue for that and that reduces the argument to absurdity, as there is a case to be made out that some of what we now see in society is of concern. fair2good has outlined some of this, much of which I would think anyone on here might have concerns about. No-one wants to go back to the days of sexual guilt and condemnation of homosexuals, but wishing to see the back of some of thee worrying trends does not equate to prudishness.

There is a balance to be struck and sometimes it does feel as though some things are out of kilter, especially with the spread of social media and its effect on young people.

With the invention of the internet, the genie is well and truly out of the bottle, will in my opinion never go back.

So what do we as a society do?

Educate our youngsters to value themselves and their bodies, to not be ashamed of their sexuality.

To value relationships along with the understanding of consent, no means no regardless at what point it is said.

To teach both girls and boys respect for the opposite sex.

I am sure that is what we would all wish, and what our AC are doing with our GC. But, having worked as a social worker, I am acutely aware that not all children and young people are brought up in such advantageous circumstances. These are the ones who are so vulnerable to all this media emphasis on voyeuristic sex. They have no examples of sound relationships to work on; nor the self-confidence that we all hope to foster in our chidlren. They are easily swayed by the promise of "love" and find themselves exploited.

Good points in both these posts.

Fair2good

Caleo I absolutely disagree with you. What you term prudishness was seen as decent behaviour in my day. I’m saddened by many of the comments on here but appreciate that the majority of gransnetters will be a lot younger than I am.
All I can say is that what I see as a decline in moral standards over the years has produced a harvest that no one should be proud of. Few people marry, those that do are lucky if it lasts more than a few years. Young people have multiple partners with a massive increase in sexually transmitted diseases including syphilis. Abortion rates are sky high despite there being the best contraception freely available. Children are lucky to live in families where their biological fathers are around and instead many of them see a series of male partners in their mother’s lives. Kids as young as ten are addicted to pornography. Male violence towards women is widespread, sexual offences against women are increasing and even sexual offences committed by children against other children aren’t uncommon.
This is the great utopia the liberalism of the 60’s led to. I’m glad I won’t be alive to see the horrors of the next 20 years in view of what the last 20 has brought.
I pity young people today, perhaps if some of the posters on here had been a little less liberal in the upbringing of their children, those children might be leading happier lives.

Perhaps you might mean me and my family?

We have 5 children ranging from 40 to 21. Our two oldest children live in their own homes, with good jobs and in long term committed relationships, our 9 year old grandson lives with biological parents. Our younger three children all still live at home, two are in long term committed relationships and work full time and are saving for their own homes. The youngest is only 21 and doesn’t feel ready to enter into any serious relationships.

They are all happy, are we are too, having been together for 30 years and married for 27 years.

Judge all you like, you’re perfectly entitled to your opinions and views, but I can assure you my family and friends are decent, none of our children were addicted to anything at 10 and wouldn’t even have heard about porn, in the same way as our grandson who will be 10 this year. His internet access is very carefully controlled and he doesn’t have a mobile phone.

But children arent happy at the moment are they? This doesnt mean individual children arent having fulfilling lives, I think my children are happy but generally mental health amongst young people is an increasing problem.

I'm not sure how I feel about it.

Its a constant worry with a teen, though.

Galaxy

But children arent happy at the moment are they? This doesnt mean individual children arent having fulfilling lives, I think my children are happy but generally mental health amongst young people is an increasing problem.

I think Covid and the multiple lockdowns have contributed to the decline in many young people’s mental health, along with the constant publicity regarding climate change.

Granny gravy13
Galaxy

Yes, I agree that there is a huge problem with mental health in this country, particularly amongst teens to 25 year olds and a massive lack of services to cope with it.

I do think lockdown has in many ways left a legacy of damage particularly among younger generations.

I do not know what answers are, but I know cuts to SureStart, Community Groups, Youth Offending Services and staff shortages in other services have done nothing at all to help this situation and it is a worry.

The only good about mental health that I’ve seen happen in the last 10 years is people are far more open, mental health is discussed now and gradually the stigma around it is decreasing.

Cossy I agree that it is a good thing that the stigma and silence around mental health is decreasing.

We are not ashamed of having a physical illness, nobody should be shamed for having a mental illness.

Fair2good, I haven't seen this, but from what you say, I wholeheartedly agree with you. It is yet another very sad sign of how low our society has become on so many levels and I do fear for our youngsters today. Bring back decency.

I think we are reaping what we sow here. Young people watching/subjecting themselves to this sort of viewing and then we hear of a woman in Rochdale being raped by 3 boys, think one was 12, another 13 and another 14. I was horrified, boys of that age in my day and I am only 67 were still playing Cowboys and Indians.
Society has changed so much and no I wouldn't want to watch scenes like this especially gay sex scenes.

Not every family is like yours Cossy.

Cossy, , no I do not put on the same level anal sex and men kissing, what a ridiculous statement.
I think you should read up on all the statistics about anal sex and the life changing effect, even one encounter can have on some ones life. The real danger is a girls anus differ to Mens, they can become incontinent for life, there is no operation to cure it. Some men might not get problems, but no it's not safe and to suggest it is is wrong. Womans Hour had a long programme about it and interviewed youand women, some in early twenties or younger whose lives had been ruined by one encounter.Im sure you can google it. My teenage grandchildren were given all the information and make their own mind up and respect their own bodies or no one else will.
I want my grandchildren safe with all the facts not getting information from porno mags or other sources.