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Whethertomorrow Thu 14-Mar-24 23:16:16

Tonight William and Harry are delivering award in recognition of their mother in what seems to be a carefully choreographed event, that keeps them apart. But….
Today Meghan has announced her new ventures and whilst William is being centre stage, the Sussexes (?) have announced a large cash award from archewell.

Why? Do they not realise that people know that the timing is deliberate. Who is driving this spiteful behaviour. It’s all so unnecessary in my humble opinion.

I’ll retire behind settee now with my tin hat on awaiting the chorus of oh no not Meghan and Harry again!

CoolCoco Fri 15-Mar-24 12:49:19

So both M and C are fakes when it comes to photos...

Anniebach Fri 15-Mar-24 12:40:50

I agree Cossy Diana was spiteful, but she was suffering with
mental illness which can truly affect emotions.

Pantglas2 Fri 15-Mar-24 12:38:06

CoolCoco

Oh god not another bitchfest. Anyone would think that Meghan had released an enhanced photo of herself and her children.

You might like to research the comments from the photographer who took the one of a barefoot Harry/pregnant Meghan beneath the tree before jumping on that particular bandwagon…

Cossy Fri 15-Mar-24 12:38:05

Boz

Can't wait to try her marmalade. Bitter and Acidic.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Quite like a slightly bitter marmalade!

Cossy Fri 15-Mar-24 12:37:21

nanna8

I wouldn’t think so. Diana had many faults but she was never spiteful.

Actually, hate to disagree, Diana did have a spiteful streak I’m afraid.

I think she’d be very conflicted if she was still alive, and if she was still with us it’s entirely possibly this whole fiasco would never have happened!

Pantglas2 Fri 15-Mar-24 12:35:07

nanna8

I wouldn’t think so. Diana had many faults but she was never spiteful.

Oh but she was to Tiggy Legge-Bourke, the nanny Charles employed when they separated!

Boz Fri 15-Mar-24 12:34:18

Can't wait to try her marmalade. Bitter and Acidic.

CoolCoco Fri 15-Mar-24 12:32:11

Oh god not another bitchfest. Anyone would think that Meghan had released an enhanced photo of herself and her children.

Cossy Fri 15-Mar-24 12:31:34

Anniebach

Surely Harry didn’t need advisers to advise on his choosing to write his book ?

Well you wouldn’t have thought so! But as he chose to perhaps he does need to seek advice! grin

Lollin Fri 15-Mar-24 12:18:47

Aveline

We met some Americans on holiday who told us how lovely they thought it was that the then baby was called Lilibet. Once we explained the crass nature of this incredibly tactless, tasteless thing to do they were appalled.

I don’t know any of them but I am aware the media does make money from whipping up their never ending reports about them.
I do know they aren’t the only ones to use the name linked to the late Queen. I’d do a link but I’ve spent too much time here already!

Joseann Fri 15-Mar-24 12:03:10

I think H & M's PR machine is far more polished than that of the RF, so of course, it looks like they are omnipresent.

Smileless2012 Fri 15-Mar-24 12:01:56

I think her missile may have missed it's target merlotgran. I knew about the Diana awards but only found about her M's new lifestyle thingy and an Archewell award her on GN.

Of course if she'd thought about it, she'd have realised that far from taking the spotlight from her b.i.l., if that was her intention, she's attempted to take the spotlight from an awards ceremony in memory of his, and her own husband's mother.

An own goal perhaps.

nanna8 Fri 15-Mar-24 11:45:53

That was an answer to merlotgran post.

nanna8 Fri 15-Mar-24 11:44:59

I wouldn’t think so. Diana had many faults but she was never spiteful.

maddyone Fri 15-Mar-24 11:43:50

eazybee
I’m sorry, I don’t understand your post.
Who was the new man installed in the family home?
Who is seriously ill? If King Charles, he is the father , not the grandfather.
meeting out similar behaviour to their formerly much loved grandparents, now seriously ill are you speaking of when the late queen and PP were ill?

I’m sory, I’m confused by your post.

merlotgran Fri 15-Mar-24 11:35:53

They might just as well scrap the Diana Awards ceremony. It’s just another convenient battlefield for H&M to launch their missiles.

There were two last night, Meghan’s new lifestyle thingy where she will no doubt use her title to flog stuff and presenting their own Archewell award just before William was due to appear.

I doubt their late mother would be impressed. 🤫

Anniebach Fri 15-Mar-24 11:34:48

Surely Harry didn’t need advisers to advise on his choosing to write his book ?

eazybee Fri 15-Mar-24 11:31:20

I see two adult grandchildren meting out similar behaviour to their formerly much-loved paternal grandparents, now seriously ill, (neighbours) following the break up of their parents''marriage due to their mother's adultery and the installation of the new man in the family home.
How these grandchildren can behave so badly towards their grandparents, seven houses away, is beyond me.

Cossy Fri 15-Mar-24 11:27:56

Rosie51

I’m not supporting their interviews nor the books, I’m simply stating that Harry and William are two completely different people, with very different roles and William is surrounded by advisers (no problem with this) and Harry clearly made some atrocious decisions.

I just don’t believe everything I read or hear about any of the RF, nor do I believe H&M are toxic and evil.

Rosie51 Fri 15-Mar-24 11:23:09

Cossy

Rosie51

Cossy it can't be mere coincidence that Harry and/or Meghan announce or launch something on exactly the same day that there is a "significant happening" involving others in the RF. A date that has been known about in advance. Once might be an unfortunate occurrence, but multiple times smacks of intent.

I think most people are saddened by the rift between two brothers who were once very close, but it remains that only one of them issues accusations and condemnation publicly. It is a very big bridge that will need building.

The “significant happening” was honouring BOTH son’s mother’s awards! Clearly at least one of those sons was ok with the timing. It could indeed be a coincident. I think people are making much about nothing!

Yes on this occasion it was both sons' mother's awards, but on other occasions it hasn't been.

No other members of the RF have published books, given interviews etc where they have trashed Harry and/or Meghan. That's a very big difference between the brothers. I'm surprised you can't see that.

Cossy Fri 15-Mar-24 11:18:28

Anniebach

Quote Cossy Fri 15-Mar-24 11:10:35
Anniebach
Yes Cossy I am grateful I do not lie ,seek revenge or suffer
jealousy.

I’m afraid I have lied in the past, I have felt tinges of jealousy and once I felt very vengeful towards an ex boyfriend! So you are a very good and honourable person, never to have ever lied or experienced any unpleasant emotions.

I have never experienced jealousy, I was told jealousy eats at the heart

Yes it does! And I spoke to someone close to me and “got over myself” it’s an utterly destructive emotion and anyone, like myself, needs to be self aware and get some help, as it can eat away at one and be very self destructive, just like other negative emotions.

Anniebach Fri 15-Mar-24 11:14:50

Quote Cossy Fri 15-Mar-24 11:10:35
Anniebach
Yes Cossy I am grateful I do not lie ,seek revenge or suffer
jealousy.

I’m afraid I have lied in the past, I have felt tinges of jealousy and once I felt very vengeful towards an ex boyfriend! So you are a very good and honourable person, never to have ever lied or experienced any unpleasant emotions.

I have never experienced jealousy, I was told jealousy eats at the heart

maddyone Fri 15-Mar-24 11:13:59

The Duchess of Sussex has always cared about humanity

She estranged her father. He made mistakes but she will not forgive him. That’s not caring about humanity.
She lied about events in the RF in an interview. That’s not caring about humanity.
She and Harry have effectively estranged the whole of Harry’s family. That’s not caring about humanity.
Her children are not allowed to have a relationship with their grandfathers. That’s not caring about humanity.

If a person is unable to care about their own family (assuming they’re not sadistic abusers) then they can have no real care for other people. Children learn love and respect in the home. Harry’s childhood was undoubtedly difficult, but he was loved. I don’t know anything about Meghan’s childhood other than her parents were divorced and it is said that her father idolised her. They are possibly both quite damaged people, I don’t know, but they care about themselves, not about others.

Cossy Fri 15-Mar-24 11:10:35

Anniebach

Yes Cossy I am grateful I do not lie ,seek revenge or suffer
jealousy.

I’m afraid I have lied in the past, I have felt tinges of jealousy and once I felt very vengeful towards an ex boyfriend! So you are a very good and honourable person, never to have ever lied or experienced any unpleasant emotions.

Jaberwok Fri 15-Mar-24 11:08:15

I do sometimes wonder what Harry led Meghan to believe before they were married. Perhaps that his position was much more important than it was, favourite grandson, so they could do and have anything they wanted, and that reality was rather different? Who knows. Meghan aside, what puzzles me is the way Harry treated the late Queen. Why call your new baby a nickname that you knew would upset your much loved grandmother and lie about her giving permission when the permission she gave was for her proper name to be used. Why give that awful interview when your beloved grandpa was dying, making the Queen cry? Why refuse to visit your dying grandmother, knowing how upset she would be? Which one of us would do that? Was the late Queen being punished for daring to stand in their way? Fast forward, why would Harry allow their spokesperson to accuse his father and once much loved SIL to be accused of racism, which is a complete lie. No wonder the RF want little or nothing to do with Harry, would any of us? The late Duke of Windsor pales into insignificance by comparison.