Aintree Marred By Drunken Brawling On Ladies Day

Germanshepherdsmum

That makes two of us then. 😁

I completely agree!

Aintree, like all horse and dog racing, is marred by the deaths of these beautiful animals just because people want to gamble. To think that the last moments of these animals as they lie dying in agony is in front of a baying drunken mob is heartbreaking. Time for a ban on these so-called sports.

Urmstongran

Exactly why I didn’t put a thread up this year on the Grand National.

At least this year they’ve put in even more safety measures. I completely understand peoples anxieties around the horses and why they feel it’s a cruel and awful sport. I grew up riding and around horses and loved riding. Horses have accidents in all kinds of places, in their fields, whilst out being ridden nowhere near racetracks and in show jumping, and the majority of owners, trainers and jockeys adore these beautiful racehorses and treat them well. There’s very strict rules around whip control too.

Having said all that, I do completely understand those who hate it and their reasons.

This is,certainly, nothing new. I grew up in a town with one of the major racecourses. Most weekends we'd frequent the pubs in the town centre. On race days we wouldn't bother, too much trouble. This was late 70s,early 80s.

Common people, nouveau riche! My mother's just got out of her coffin, how she loved to be a snob but she was really just aspirational middle class. Hoi polloi was another favourite word. A day at the races has always been popular, a chance to dress up, have a few drinks, scream and shout, get lucky, get broke and of course, a few people will forget it's bad form to scrap in public places! It's always been like that. I was just pleased to see horses and riders were all ok in the Grand National.

Urmstongran

^My personal definition of common is that of having no respect for one’s surroundings, other people, devoid of all manners, and absolutely no idea how to behave and/or dress in a way fit for the occasion you are attending^

Hey GG13 look at this, yesterday! Wowzer. I thought it ‘inappropriate’ (too much skin exposed) for a dinner - never mind the White House! What do you think?

“ Lauren Sánchez chose a gown that bucked tradition for White House state dinners.

The 54-year-old journalist and philanthropist stepped out with fiancé Jeff Bezos, 60, for a state dinner honoring Japan's Prime Minister Fumio Kishida and his wife, Yuko. For the affair on Wednesday, April 10, Sánchez wore a revealing red corset gown that stood out among the conservatively dressed crowd. (The White House did not respond to a request for comment on dress codes but typical state dinner dress code is black tie.)

The $2,300 Rasario dress features an off-the-shoulder neckline and structured corset bodice with sheer lace at the abdomen.”

Thanks for this urmston. Much as I dislike loud drunken fighting folks, this image puts snobbery about common people right into perspective
Imagine going to a White House event looking like this

People can be rich and move in celebrity circles yet still be common.

I agree GSM

On many occasions , I've seen groups of revellers returning from the races at the London stations .
It's always been groups of women -all dressed up and sailing three sheets to the wind !

Yes, I have seen them early in the morning en route - dressed in next to nothing whatever the weather and already hitting the booze.

GSM my mum would agree with your comments on what is common. I am my mothers daughter 🌞

Call me old fashioned but I have never seen the attraction of spending an arm and a leg on a WAG type outfit and big hat, high heels and all to drink myself legless on what is 9 times out of 10 a cold and windy racecourse!
I’d rather be at Cheltenham in boots and my big coat.

But (and here I am being judgemental as well as old fashioned) is there nowhere else on the scale of 1-10, where 1 is sober and 10 is being sick in the gutter, where young (and not so young) people can enjoy themselves?
Rhetorical question I suspect

High jinx and good time should not in my opinion be brawling and getting drunk, if that makes me a snob, so be it.

Bad behaviour at racecourses appears to be relatively new, I grew up in Surrey very close to the race course where the Derby was held. I just remember we all got the day off school because our town was heaving on that day, I don't remember reports of bad, raucous behaviour. It was just very crowded and then those crowds appeared to disperse in a fairly orderly manner.

So many people clutching their pearls as though there have never been brawls at a race meeting before, yet the OP says:

But then this kind of behavior has happened at Royal Ascot within sight of the late Queen.

There are hundreds of race meetings every year, some are big and well known, most are not. They all offer the same opportunities for drinking and brawling, but I doubt that any other incidents make the headlines, because they're not at prestigious/famous meetings.

So the world as we knew it hasn't come to an end.

But this thread has been a splendid opportunity for further displays of what I would describe as snobbery...

So, if we don't think getting kaylied then brawling is the way to behave, then we're snobs?

But this thread has been a splendid opportunity for further displays of what I would describe as snobbery

Aka taking a dim view of drunken brawling, loutish behaviour and any excuse for a p*SS up.

Ah well.

MaizieD

So many people clutching their pearls as though there have never been brawls at a race meeting before, yet the OP says:

But then this kind of behavior has happened at Royal Ascot within sight of the late Queen.

There are hundreds of race meetings every year, some are big and well known, most are not. They all offer the same opportunities for drinking and brawling, but I doubt that any other incidents make the headlines, because they're not at prestigious/famous meetings.

So the world as we knew it hasn't come to an end.

But this thread has been a splendid opportunity for further displays of what I would describe as snobbery...

I agree Maizie similar snobbery on the Angela Rayner thread.

It is happening because they are letting in the lowlives and their partners who show off their breasts, legs and anything else they can show off just to get attention. My old mum used to call them, all fur coat and no knickers. What happened to the dress code.

As a Liverpudlian I remember Aintree bringing plenty of stars to the city. My aunt did Elizabeth Taylor’s hair for that and Lana Turner though I don’t suppose people remember her. I had the autographs. 50 plus years ago it was very smart. Suits and hats and fur coats (shock horror )because it almost always hinted at snow at some point. The glamorous Adelphi hotel is now a dump or was when I last stayed there. People with bin bags instead of suitcases. I never could work that one out. I’m not going to say what I call the Ladies Day now . I too hate seeing the deaths of the horses but I think most dog food is horsemeat isn’t it?

MaizieD

So many people clutching their pearls as though there have never been brawls at a race meeting before, yet the OP says:

But then this kind of behavior has happened at Royal Ascot within sight of the late Queen.

There are hundreds of race meetings every year, some are big and well known, most are not. They all offer the same opportunities for drinking and brawling, but I doubt that any other incidents make the headlines, because they're not at prestigious/famous meetings.

So the world as we knew it hasn't come to an end.

But this thread has been a splendid opportunity for further displays of what I would describe as snobbery...

The world hasn’t come to an end.

The Grand National is a world famous steeple chase, publicised around the globe, if the brawling and drunkenness is also covered by the worlds press it is not a good look

Like I have said upthread several times if finding the actions of these few distasteful and downright disrespectful to other race goers makes me a snob, I will gladly own being a snob.

Stansgran

As a Liverpudlian I remember Aintree bringing plenty of stars to the city. My aunt did Elizabeth Taylor’s hair for that and Lana Turner though I don’t suppose people remember her. I had the autographs. 50 plus years ago it was very smart. Suits and hats and fur coats (shock horror )because it almost always hinted at snow at some point. The glamorous Adelphi hotel is now a dump or was when I last stayed there. People with bin bags instead of suitcases. I never could work that one out. I’m not going to say what I call the Ladies Day now . I too hate seeing the deaths of the horses but I think most dog food is horsemeat isn’t it?

I'm old enough to remember Lana Turner!
And The Adelphi.

What I can't understand is the young women who attend in their strappy dresses, no jacket or coat because yes, it can be chilly in April. Friday was warmer here, I'm not sure about further north.
I'd be purple with goosebumps, not a glamorous look.

Two horses have died during Ladies Day at the Grand National Festival.

Both horses fell at jumps and were treated on the track, at Aintree Race Course in Liverpool.

Giovinco who was being ridden by Stephen Mulqueen, fell at the final fence of the Mildmay Novices' Chase just before 2pm, and required treatment on the track.

He was treated by vets for an extended time, but could not be saved from the injuries sustained in the fall.

Giovinco was trained by two-time Grand National winner Lucinda Russell, and was seven years old.

A second horse, Pikar, was killed when he broke his neck after a fall, campaign group Animal Aid said.

Pikar, ridden by Stephen Mulqueen and trained at Dan Skelton's yard, fell at the second last hurdle in the last race of the day.

I enjoyed going to the three day event at Badminton. Fantastic horses with highly skilled riders. It was more Barber coats and Hunter wellies than stilettos and strapped frocks but plenty of entitled young men with Home Counties accents drinking excessively, throwing up and some of them goading the police presence

BlueBelle

Hate horse or dog racing I m happy to let them get on with it

me too. #youbettheydie