Should women have equal pay and opportunities?

Germanshepherdsmum

Your thread is a strange way of making your point.

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... yes, it is.

Deliberately so.

And now the OP can deal with all the fall out from it 🤣

Ah there you are !

Bumface where are you !? I can't be anyone can even consider your question re. equal pay. Are you for real ?

Your thread is a strange way of making your point.

Should women have equal pay and opportunities?

Yes.

I really was brought up to believe this garbage and I am not that old.
We may delude ourselves that we have completely moved away from the bad old days, but how do you explain the following:-

Latest figures for average gender pay gap 14.3%.

Schools still run on the assumption that one parent does not have a full-time job. Holiday, before and after school care does exist in most, but not all, schools but it comes at a price.

According to a recent survey women do 80% of the housework.

If children are ill it is almost always the woman who has to stay home from work.

If the house is dirty or the children misbehave the woman is more likely to be blamed.

In broken homes it is still nearly always the women who has custody of the children and it is not unusual for the man to start a new family without a backward glance.

It is still more acceptable for a man to live away from home if his work requires it.

Don't get me started on adverts, though quite a few now show men doing housework.

Andrew Tate and his ilk.

I really didn't mean to stir up a hornets' nest but I am loving your responses. BTW I was born a girl and I still identify as female. I could go on but I need to sort out the washing and dust the living room.

Germanshepherdsmum

The OP seems unable or unwilling to offer any opinion on the matter. Strange.

... maybe she has to wait for her man to tell her what her opinion is when he returns home from his bread-wining?

This has to be a joke post...? 😅

The OP seems unable or unwilling to offer any opinion on the matter. Strange.

When someone prefaces a comment with, I was brought up to believe, or - my mother always taught me that..., it's a provocation. Because the person commenting is suggesting that their mother, or whoever brought-them-up, has some special pipe-line to the truth which we should treat with some respect.

Weren't we all brought up by guardians or parents who taught us to believe whatever subjective opinions they had?

And, frankly, to pose such a question - "should women have equal pay and opportunities" when women through the centuries have fought to be recognised as an equal half of the population rather than a subservient to men, is a tad insulting.

I wonder if Bumface would like to return to the days when women seldom owned property because it was entailed to the male heirs; where women who were not lucky enough to marry had to either become governesses or, if they hadn't had much of an education - menials for the upper classes? Without equal pay and opportunities, how would women support themselves if they didn't have a "breadwinner" to keep them?

... as for men always having the final decision in family matters - why? Are they characteristically infallible because they are men?

Positing this notion in the 21st century among a group of women who have campaigned and fought to shake off the straightjacket of second-class citizenship - some of whom are highly educated professional women - is just provocative.

... and ridiculous. Women have, for various reasons, been both breadwinner, mother and homemaker, all at the same time for decades now. That they should for some reason, because of their biology, have less pay, less opportunities, is absurd.

Should women be paid the same as men and have equal opportunities? I cannot think of a single reason why not. I was also raised with the story that girls should marry. have children and belong to a man but I believe a woman should be free do whatever she wants with her life, just as everyone should.

. Well someone is bored this morning.
Well done Bumface . Good result. What else will you do today for a laugh

Hey, little girl
Comb your hair, fix your make-up
Soon he will open the door
Don't think because
There's a ring on your finger
You needn't try any more

For wives should always be lovers, too
Run to his arms the moment he comes home to you
I'm warning you

Day after day
There are girls at the office
And men will always be men
Don't send him off
With your hair still in curlers
You may not see him again

For wives should always be lovers, too
Run to his arms the moment he comes home to you
He's almost here

Hey, little girl
Better wear something pretty
Something you'd wear to go to the city
And dim all the lights
Pour the wine, start the music
Time to get ready for love

I may well be wrong, but I think the OP once said she had been a hospital sister.

Bumface maybe a disgruntled man. The post would make more sense then.

Bumface has posted on Gransnet since August 2023, and possibly earlier if anyone wants to look.

The girl that I marry will have to be
As soft and as pink as a nursery
The girl I call my own
Will wear satins and laces and smell of cologne
Her nails will be polished and, in her hair,
She'll wear a gardenia and I'll be there
'stead of flittin', I'll be sittin'
Next to her and she'll purr like a kitten
A doll I can carry, the girl that I marry must be
Her nails will be polished and, in her hair,
She'll wear a gardenia and I'll be there
'stead of flittin', I'll be sittin'
Next to her and she'll purr like a kitten

Lovely tunes Irving Berlin composed

Now…. ‘Annie Get Your Gun’

A wind up or we have time lapsed.

Is it the 'silly season'? Never in the history of Gransnet has such a crass question been raised.

OP has lit the blue touch paper...and scarpered

The OP doesn’t state that she agrees with what she was brought up to believe.
Many ethnic groups in the UK think along those lines, even in 2024.

The OP has made a statement I would like to know what they think and how old they are.

😂
A wind up indeed
So stop arsing around Bumface 😛

AI?

Of course women should have equal pay and equal opportunities. It’s 2024, not 1824.