Botox and fillers

I rarely read the DM, which is, in my view misogynist, but do know friends and acquaintances who have had work done, but not lip fillers which appears to be losing popularity.

I agree with Dickens that society seems uncomfortable with the aging process, which means that lucrative businesses have sprung up to cater for our insecurities.Even dentists are glorified beauticians now.

Rather ironic really when huge chunks of the population are unable to afford even basic dentistry.

It’s obvious from the majority of posts here that you only comment on what you see from on the tv or the pics in the DM, when reality women asking to have lip fillers removed has been on the increase for some time.

inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/lip-fillers-removed-rising-number-women-explained-2075857

MissInterpreted

I think we should just be encouraging our daughters and granddaughters to value themselves for who they are, not what they look like.

So agree.

Ho hum, 'society' seems to be uncomfortable with the ageing process; we are compelled to "look good for our age" and "hide those grey hairs" and "tell-tale" lines and wrinkles. And in order to be complicit we are encouraged to buy attractively-packaged pots of this and that 'daub' of very expensive potions which "hide the signs of ageing".

I understand that people want to look their best - but we cannot be eternally young.

Some of the treatments are subtle and the effect is 'gentle', but those taut faces - rictus faces - with huge trout-pouts, are most certainly not.

You are allowed to respect your adult children's choices to do what they want with their own bodies, while at the same time, being disappointed with those choices. I'm with Aveline on this one.

Aveline please do not think harshly of your daughter, it really is her choice.

In the big scheme of things is this worth risking your relationship with her? She is still the same person, just having some tweekments

The odd thing is, that people use these fillers supposedly to enhance their appearance, but they seldom do. The 'trout pout' is not a good look and being unable to smile makes one resemble a puppet.

I doubt she'd be surprised. I expect that's why she kept quiet about it in the first place.
I'm well aware of the use of botulinum toxin for medical purposes and have seen it used in that context.

Aveline

Summerlove I'm quite sure it's a two way thing. She must think I look a right sight but I'm happy to own my wrinkles - I had a lot of fun and achieved a lot while developing them.

I was thinking more your attitude towards her. I doubt she thinks about if you have wrinkles at all.

Itd be quite a blow to find out your mother now thinks poorly of you for your choices

Jaberwok

Well for certain Queen Camilla hasn't ventured into the realms of Botex and she looks marvellous for her age, wrinkles and all! I think her hair has some help, but apart from that, nothing. I'm of the same opinion, growing old gracefully is far more peaceful.

Her hair appears, to me, to have a lovely bayalage foil treatment. Adds lots of body and fullness to thin hair - I love it.

A relative of a friend had a Botox injection this week for bladder problems.
It is used for several procedures other than numbing the face muscles.

All these disparaging remarks suggesting that you are of lesser intelligence because of these procedures are rubbish, it’s got nothing to do with your intelligence.

Summerlove I'm quite sure it's a two way thing. She must think I look a right sight but I'm happy to own my wrinkles - I had a lot of fun and achieved a lot while developing them.

Well for certain Queen Camilla hasn't ventured into the realms of Botex and she looks marvellous for her age, wrinkles and all! I think her hair has some help, but apart from that, nothing. I'm of the same opinion, growing old gracefully is far more peaceful.

Aveline

I'm not arguing I'm just very disappointed and feel differently about her. I'm human.

Gosh that’s so sad.
Be prepared for her to think quite differently of you as well

I wouldn’t be surprised.

Will they all end up like gargoyles in their 70s?

I'm afraid that I'm all for personal choice in matters such as this.
If you want to do it and have the money to do so - fine!

What does niggle at me is that so many younger people are choosing this and I'm not convinced that's good!
Talking to my son's partner recently about it and she shared with me that 3 people in her office go to 'parties' and get it done there.
These are between 19 and 23.

I'm afraid my reaction would be to gasp and say something before I could stop myself, Aveline

Aveline

I am indeed judgemental. I judge that it's a daft thing to do and I'm disappointed in her for doing this. I wish she hadn't done this and I wish that I didn't feel like this but she did, and I do.

I respect and embrace your honesty

However I regularly have my feet and nails done(all my own nails) and my grey hair coloured into a very natural look and I’ve been known to have my eyelashes tinted. I have one tattoo, done in memory of both my parents, (who both hated tattoos!) aged 64! It may not be my last! It’s on my upper right arm and rarely seen unless I’m swimming or in a spa.

My daughters, in their 20’s rarely even wear make up, their two lovely girlfriends wear quite a bit of make, but none of them have any Botox, fillers, lips enhanced etc ditto my lovely stepdaughter who has just turned 40!

Aveline

How will these tattooed features look in later life?

I don't know, but I'm happy so far ☺

How will these tattooed features look in later life?

You can also have tattooed lips, they call it lip blush and from photos I have seen it doesn’t look too bad. Apparently as well as giving slight colour, for ladies with thin lips makes them look fuller but not the trout pout.

I work with quite a few women in their 30's, and quite often they mention an appointment after work... nails, botox, fillers, lashes, etc.

Gosh, I just hope they have money saved for their kids' education.

Norah

Chestnut

What kind of new horror is this? Tattooed foundation injected into the skin which lasts up to six months. I really hope this doesn't become the norm. It's worth reading the article just to see what this is all about.

Semi permanent tattooed foundation

I've had tattooed brows for 15 years, makes life much easier for a silver haired pale skinned person (pale blonde prior to silver - I've never had much colour).

This is not eyebrows, this is foundation, injected all over the face.