Botox and fillers

It wouldn’t surprise me. So many seem to want a particular ‘look’. I don’t know what fillers do to the body as they break down. I don’t know your daughter’s age, and I don’t have a daughter, but my daughter in law, late 30s, doesn’t have any artificial enhancements other than a few highlights.

It's very common, unfortunately - as GSM says, so many young women seem to want that particular look now. Thankfully my daughter seems quite content to be herself and hasn't fallen into that trap. I'm quite surprised that you hadn't noticed she'd had any work done though.

I watched a recent film starring Sandra Bullock. She was normally a beautiful lady but now she has had lip fillers and other treatments and she looks like a fish around her mouth.

I am 81 years old and from being 16 years of age I have used moisturising creams because my mum started to buy from an Avon lady in the late 1950's. I do not have any wrinkles at all and our sons say that I look 20 years younger and I have been taken for my eldest sons wife (he is 54 years old) and he wasn't very happy about it. My neck and chest looks like a 30 year olds, no turkey neck, just smooth skin.

I felt so stupid as I'd never suspected she'd do such a thing. I'm very disappointed in her. I thought there was more to her than how she looked.

Aveline, don't be disappointed. It is so common now, almost expected. I find it sad though but you can get it done in hairdresser shops now fgs

I wonder if it is common amongst men?

My niece was horrified when her 13 year old daughter came home from school asking if she should have lip fillers, she said lots of girls at her school has had them done. When I said I was astonished she said she knew lots of girls at the school have had the slug eyebrows (can’t think what they are really called) so wasn’t surprised about the fillers. What are the parents thinking.??
I don’t know anyone that has had fillers or Botox, my daughter hasn’t. But was reading last week of a “celebrity” who had cheek fillers that went lumpy and she had them removed now she has a permanent dent in her cheek. So it’s a no from me.

Botulinum toxins are one of the most lethal substances known to man.

Scientific research has shown that botulinum toxin can pass through the blood-brain barrier.

Adverse events associated with botox include:

dysarthria (weakened speech muscles through damage to the brain),
dysphonia (inpaired voice production - the croakiness usually assocated with old age),
dysphagia (difficulty swallowing),
respiratory compromise,
generalized muscle weakness,
marked bilateral dysphagia (drooping eyelids),
bowel/bladder-related changes,
blood circulation-related changes,
gait-related changes, and neurological problems.

www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/botulism

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6261580/

WHO say that misdiagnosis of botulism sometimes occurs as it is often confused with stroke, Guillain-Barré syndrome, or myasthenia gravis.

One can only wonder and worry about how much future trouble these young women are storing up for themselves but having a lethal toxin, however dilute, regularly injected so close to their brains.

Derma fillers are less toxic, comprising hyaluronic acid which is naturally found in the body but they are still essentially excess carbs and sugars that have to be metabolised. I wonder if they are just as potential dangerous for women with diabetes as botox is.

I remember seeing Lulu on tv a couple of years ago and her cheeks looked very lumpy. I guessed it was caused by fillers that had gone wrong/were breaking down. Saw her again recently and the problem appeared to have gone away - probably courtesy of more work.

My daughter has a small amount of botox injected into her frown lines. She has inherited them from me and if I was younger I would have had it done. Apparently the beauty industry is now based more on enhancements than anything else.
I always think each to their own and try not to be judgemental. I remember going out with thick black lines on my eyelids and white lipstick - I thought I was the bees knees!

dragonfly46. You can wash make up off.

I've always thought what beautiful skin the author Marian Keyes has. She looks like a porcelain doll. I thought she was very lucky. She said on TV the other days that she has fillers and Botox!

Oh no! There’s an illusion shattered.

At least Botox and fillers can and do wear off after time. The worrying thing is that young women are having these enhancements earlier and earlier, and one wonders about the long term effects of these treatments.

I don't think you should tar all young women with the same brush. Not all of them are led into this- I think we should support natural beauty more but that doesn't make money for these major corporations. The beauty product market is massive!

Having said that I wouldn't argue with my daughter about the choices she makes- just express your opinions and leave it at that. Building up her self-esteem so she could be more confident about who she is would be more effective.

I have had surface work done, micro needling and skin resurfacing but would never have anything injected into my face even if it were free….

So many celebrities and those in the public eye use too much and too often.If it is used properly then it wouldn't be obvious as in the case with your daughter. Kate Middleton uses it for one example of moderation. I have been using both Botox and fillers since 2010.Always from a reputable
clinic with professionally trained operatives.You would be surprised just how many people do use it. Not
everyone wants giant lips,apple cheek bones and frozen ugly faces. Honestly if it is used properly it just makes you look fresher with fewer lines.l agree that in most young women it is an unnecessary procedure.

My DD has absolutely no problem with her self esteem! That's another reason I was so shocked and disappointed. I suppose I hoped she'd have more strength of mind to reject such artificial enhancements. Maybe even embrace growing older gracefully.

Kate1949

I've always thought what beautiful skin the author Marian Keyes has. She looks like a porcelain doll. I thought she was very lucky. She said on TV the other days that she has fillers and Botox!

I only saw a photo of her for the first time the other day and thought she looked rather strange, quite unnerving for some reason.

If you didn’t know she had used Botox and fillers then they were done well and in your own words, she is beautiful.

I dont understand why you would argue with her about it, she is an adult and can make her own decisions.

I'm not arguing I'm just very disappointed and feel differently about her. I'm human.

Knowing how easily the lymph system can be upset with unpleasant consequences, I would hate for my 2 lovely mid forties daughters to dabble in Botox etc. Our bodies are so finely balanced.
I was horrified to hear of a cousin's daughter having colonic irrigation several times a few years back when it was the trend. In what way on earth is that normal for a body?.
I listened to a podcast a couple of months ago about the workings of hormones in the body regulating so many processes. Absolutely amazing. We should be teaching our young to be in awe of our bodies...not trying to "improve" them. And the long term problems could be devastating years down the line.

Amanda Holden has had lip fillers I’m sure - I noticed yesterday when she was on Britains Got Talent

I’ve had Botox on and off for about 20 years . I go to reputable skin clinic and they aim for subtle rather than obvious. My husband , family and some friends still don’t know I’ve had it done .
I had it done for my frown lines , I looked permanently cross .
It also slightly lifts my eyebrows , which opens up my eyes and makes me look fresher .
OP if you didn’t know your daughter had it done then she’s been to a good practitioner and gone for subtle. And it’s her life and her choice.

It's the society we live in now where people have to look young for as long as possible. So called celebrities have caused this by being photographed looking 20 years younger than they are.