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Aveline Sun 21-Apr-24 08:37:36

I was shocked recently when DD told me she had had Botox and fillers fairly regularly over the past few years. I couldn't believe it. It just feels so wrong to me that a beautiful young woman feels it necessary to pump her face full of toxins. Needless to say we argued and she told me that all women in her age group used them. Is this true? How can I have missed this?

Norah Mon 22-Apr-24 13:52:09

Chestnut

What kind of new horror is this? Tattooed foundation injected into the skin which lasts up to six months. I really hope this doesn't become the norm. It's worth reading the article just to see what this is all about.

Semi permanent tattooed foundation

I've had tattooed brows for 15 years, makes life much easier for a silver haired pale skinned person (pale blonde prior to silver - I've never had much colour).

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 22-Apr-24 13:06:01

crazyH

Didn’t realise Princess Catherine has had ‘work’ done on her face.

I haven’t seen any evidence that she has, just gossip on here from someone who doesn’t name their source.

Callistemon21 Mon 22-Apr-24 11:58:24

Chestnut

What kind of new horror is this? Tattooed foundation injected into the skin which lasts up to six months. I really hope this doesn't become the norm. It's worth reading the article just to see what this is all about.

Semi permanent tattooed foundation

Oh - can I inject some rosiness into my cheeks?

Namsnanny Mon 22-Apr-24 11:56:45

I assumed anyone in the public eye has crazyH

crazyH Mon 22-Apr-24 10:20:33

Didn’t realise Princess Catherine has had ‘work’ done on her face.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 22-Apr-24 10:19:01

Good grief. Implanting foundation into the skin? It beggars belief.

Chestnut Mon 22-Apr-24 10:08:32

What kind of new horror is this? Tattooed foundation injected into the skin which lasts up to six months. I really hope this doesn't become the norm. It's worth reading the article just to see what this is all about.

Semi permanent tattooed foundation

foxie48 Mon 22-Apr-24 09:32:39

ARlamb1972

I have used oil of Olay since I was early teens. My face looks great, mostly number 11's, but my neck still has the lines and starting to get the turkey neck. Idk what to do about that.

It's not all about our skin. We lose bone as we get older and that affects all our body, face included. My skin is great for my age but it still has lines as I have lost a little bone from the structure and also fat and collagen and tbh topical creams don't change that. It's a natural part of ageing I'm afraid but some people are gifted with a face that holds up better than others, another friend has probably the worst "turkey" neck I've ever seen which is such a shame as she has lovely skin.

ARlamb1972 Sun 21-Apr-24 23:42:41

I have used oil of Olay since I was early teens. My face looks great, mostly number 11's, but my neck still has the lines and starting to get the turkey neck. Idk what to do about that.

MissInterpreted Sun 21-Apr-24 17:20:25

Aveline

I am indeed judgemental. I judge that it's a daft thing to do and I'm disappointed in her for doing this. I wish she hadn't done this and I wish that I didn't feel like this but she did, and I do.

I for one don't blame you in the slightest for feeling that way. Yes, she is an adult and at the end of the day, it's up to her what she does with her own body (and I would defend her right to do so), but that does not invalidate your feelings on the matter either. I think that, in your shoes, I'd feel the same. She has the the right to have these 'treatments', but you also have the right to feel upset and disappointed at her decision to do so.

Aveline Sun 21-Apr-24 17:19:51

Chestnut- eek!!

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 21-Apr-24 17:14:01

How do we know that Princess Catherine (she ceased being Kate Middleton when she married) has had work done? Or is this just gossip?

keepcalmandcavachon Sun 21-Apr-24 17:09:02

I think Meryl Streep has said that she is the only actress in Hollywood who can frowngrin

Jillykins3 Sun 21-Apr-24 17:05:43

Bluebelle.l did respond to your msg.to me but somehow lost it when l posted so two may appear. Anyhow l wasn't arguing with anyone just giving my perspective as someone whose daughters and myself have experienced having Botox and fillers for many years.l obviously didn't make myself clear when l said it was "unnoticeable ". I meant that it is very natural looking when it is done properly and doesn't stand out like Sharon Osbourne or influencers with big giant lips and frozen faces etc. l was just trying to say that it can look very nice and make a subtle difference but still eliminate deep lines.l gave Kate Middleton as an example. It's just a shame that people most often use the extreme examples like Carol Vorderman etc when thousands upon thousand of people have no more done than Kate Middleton. A few posters have said that they are glad that their grandaughters and daughters
did not feel the need for Botox and fillers. I exempted you Bluebelle when l said that often grandma's and mothers would not be told for the very reason that it would be disapproved of as in the case with the OP. I do not aggree with younger women having procedures that they do not need but we do not know how old the OPs daughter is. As we get older we tend to call 40 year olds young women. As l said it is a personal choice and l respect everyone else's point of view.

Chestnut Sun 21-Apr-24 17:04:33

MissInterpreted

I think we should just be encouraging our daughters and granddaughters to value themselves for who they are, not what they look like.

I'm another who agrees. Our adult children can make up their own minds about botox, but young teens need to develop confidence in themselves and really believe that they don't need these treatments, at least not until they are very much older.

It's also good to explain to youngsters how amazing the human body is, how well it functions, but that it can go badly wrong when we mess with it. Point out how close the face is to the brain, and warn them about the 'triangle of death'! This is the area from the top of the nose to both corners of the mouth and across the top lip. The blood supply in that area is very closely connected to the brain. You can teach them that squeezing spots and also botox in that area may not be a good idea. And yes, this is a real thing! I didn't make it up.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_triangle_of_the_face

foxie48 Sun 21-Apr-24 16:24:54

A close friend in her 70's has great skin, few wrinkles and looks young for her age. She's always been careful with her weight and comes to my pilates classes. I told her that I thought she looked great, she laughed and said she'd been lucky with her genes but a few "tweakments" had helped. tbh it had never crossed my mind that she might have had a bit of "work" but apparently she has the odd bit of botox every 6-9 months and small amounts of temporary fillers in strategic places every 12-15 months. She's a confident happy person, certainly not lacking self esteem. Her clinician says her aim is to make her look a "fresher" version of herself not a different version. If I'd known what was possible I'd have been tempted!

Aveline Sun 21-Apr-24 16:23:20

I am indeed judgemental. I judge that it's a daft thing to do and I'm disappointed in her for doing this. I wish she hadn't done this and I wish that I didn't feel like this but she did, and I do.

rafichagran Sun 21-Apr-24 16:10:08

Aveline you did say in your original post "needless to say we argued" What I can't understand is why you feel differently about her, it comes across as judgemental.
It seems to me you have a confident daughter who is capable of making her own decisions. I would not have botox or enhancements but I know plenty who do, it's up to them.

Aveline Sun 21-Apr-24 15:56:51

Pascal30 I know! It's very sad.

BlueBelle Sun 21-Apr-24 15:49:56

Jillykins If it’s so unnoticeable what’s the point in wasting all your money on it 🤣
You obviously live in very different circles to me I don’t know anyone or their daughters or sons who have Botox or anything else We have often discussed this amongst my group of friends
I think it’s very important to build the confidence and the love of yourself in young people not to have to have goodness knows what injected into your face
I m sorry to disappoint you but I do know my family and my daughters and grandaughters (and grandsons) and would certainly know if they were having these treatments (they d probably be asking to borrow money for it 🤣)

Totally agree GSM it will add to all the bullying low self esteem and mental health of young people who don’t want it or more likely cant afford it

pascal30 Sun 21-Apr-24 15:41:48

Aveline

I'm not arguing I'm just very disappointed and feel differently about her. I'm human.

I find this very sad Aveline.. she is exactly the same as she was before she shared this information with you..

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 21-Apr-24 15:26:45

Yes. It must make a big contribution to the bullying and mental health issues we hear so much about amongst young people.

Farzanah Sun 21-Apr-24 15:15:08

I find it sad really how superficial society has become, and how the “accepted” look for women, and increasingly for men, dictated by celebs and social media is increasingly important.

All the beauty “enhancements in the world will not increase a healthy lifespan……..

Aveline Sun 21-Apr-24 14:52:24

So do I MissI

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 21-Apr-24 14:46:12

I agree MissI.